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    Default Who is genetically more unique in terms of European genetics: Sardinian or Saami?

    The first group is like 80%+ EEF/Neolithic Farmer while the latter has loads of East Eurasian ancestry approximately 20-27% or more (which is very unique for Europe as most Euros have very little to none ENA/East Eurasian), combine with a lot of HG ancestry and the lowest EEF in Europe (at around 15% on average which is even less than other Uralics) The least Neolithic admixed Saami individual is around 10% EEF while having up to 30%+ Mongoloid ancestry. (but its an ancient sample). While the least EEF admixed modern Saami individual is around 13%. In my opinion, the two groups seem to represent the two modern extreme genetic clines of Europe.

    So which of the two group is more unique in your opinion?

    Average Sardinian using G25:
    Target: Sardinian
    Distance: 3.4602% / 0.03460174
    82.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    13.2 WHG
    4.6 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke

    Most EEF Sardinian sample:
    Target: Sardinian:HGDP01075
    Distance: 3.7687% / 0.03768683
    84.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    10.6 WHG
    4.2 RUS_Volga-Kama_N
    0.4 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke


    Average Saami using G25: Krasnoyarsk_BA is kra001 which is the Siberian ancestry of Uralics (mostly similar to Nganasans and groups like Evenks).
    Target: Saami
    Distance: 3.2919% / 0.03291854
    33.0 Baltic_LVA_MN
    23.8 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    21.4 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
    16.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    5.6 RUS_Volga-Kama_N

    Most Eastern-shifted modern Saami individual: 27% Mongoloid
    Target: Saami:GS000035025
    Distance: 3.8466% / 0.03846558
    27.8 RUS_Volga-Kama_N
    27.4 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    17.4 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
    14.0 Baltic_LVA_HG
    13.4 TUR_Barcin_N

    Most East Eurasian-shifted ancient Saami: 32% Mongoloid
    Target: FIN_Levanluhta_IAA238
    Distance: 3.8468% / 0.03846838
    32.0 Baltic_LVA_MN
    31.6 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    17.4 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
    10.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    7.2 RUS_Volga-Kama_N
    1.6 RUS_Old_Bering_Uelen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joqool View Post
    the lowest EEF in Europe (at around 15% on average which is even less than other Uralics)
    It's not lower than Nenetses. And even though Nenetses have arrived to Europe fairly recently, Siberian-like populations have inhabited the tundra regions of Europe since at least the time of Bolshoy Oleny Ostrov in the second millennium BC.

    According to Nenets tradition, a people called Sikhirtya or Sirtya (Сихиртя or Сиртя) were the former inhabitants of Nenets regions of Europe: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Сиртя.

    A Russian book about Sikhirtya speculated that Sikhirtya were a Samoyedic people who expanded to Europe before Nenetses (https://www.bulgari-istoria-2010.com...y_sibiri_5.pdf):

    B.C. Burdov (1965, p. 257) wrote: "... the hunters of the sea beast, whom the Nenets called Siirtya [сииртя], could be the same Nenets, speaking only a special dialect of the Nenets language." That the Nenets understood the speech of Sikirtya, JI.A Chindina wrote (1992, p. 20).

    The most reliable information should be considered from the Nenets. JI.B. Khomich (1970, 1976, p. 57, 58) quotes the words of the Nenets informant I. Salinder, who explained that they speak "As if in Nenets, only stuttering, but you can understand." If you rely on this message, then we can assume that the language of Sikhirt was Samoyed. [...]

    Perhaps the ethnonym comes from from Nen. сихирць 'acquire an earthy complexion'. Or, according to the position of G.D. Verbova (Khomich L.V., 1976, p. 58), Nen. сихирць 'avoid, avoid'. Of these versions, the second seems to us preferable. L.V. Khomich (1964) proposed the following etymology: the ethnonym is based on the verb сиць 'make a hole, a hole' (Nen. си 'hole, hole'). However, L.P. Lashuk (1968, p. 190, 191) considered this etymology contrary to morphological norms Nenets language. A.V. Golovnev (1998) proposed a different etymology, which he reduces to Nen. си (ся) 'entrance to another world, sacred input'. [...]

    Later, in 1953, V.N. Chernetsov quite definitely connected the ethnonym sikhirtya with the Ugric ethnonym сабир (савыр, сибир, сипыр). He derived the ethnonym s'ihir-t'a [written in the Latin alphabet; the letter h is superscripted] (the restored form s'ibir-t'an) from s'iBir, and he defined the second component -t'an as the general self-name of the Arctic tribes with meaning people. [...]

    V.P. Chernetsov (1935) reported that the Nenets of the Venong clan, the patrimonies of the Northern Yamal, still met on the Yamal people living in earthen houses and hunting for sea animals. Nenets entered with them both in military clashes and in marital unions. V.P. Chernetsov even cites the pedigree of one of the branches of the Wenong clan, whose woman was married to the last sikhirtya. [...]

    Nenets from Dolgoshelje (the tundra to the west of the lower geographic course of the Mezen river in the Urals) consider themselves the descendants of sikhirtya (Khomich JI.B., 1970). Nenka P.A. Khanzerova, who lived in 1968 on the Kanin Peninsula, reported that her grandfather and grandmother also considered themselves descendants of sikhirtya. [...]

    P.-M. Lamartinier in the book "Traveling to the North Country", published in 1671, provides a description of the dwellings of the Borandays [борандайцев], the indigenous inhabitants of the Mezen tundra. Borandays lived in huts that were very carefully made of fish (cetaceans? - A.M.) bones. The huts were also covered with fish bones, mossed on top and lined around turf so good that no wind can penetrate inside otherwise both through doors arranged like a furnace mouth, and through a roof in which a window or hole is arranged through which light penetrates (Vasiliev V.I., 1970, p. 153).

    A. Schrenk (1855) from the words of the Samoyeds gives a rather detailed description of the dwellings of sikhirtya. In the hills lying along the banks of Сииртеты (now the Сибирка River), a tributary of the Kara there are miraculous [чудские; en tiedä tarkoittaako tämä tshuudeja] caves in which copper and cast-iron were once found boilers with tin and lead residues. These hills are known among the Samoyeds under the name of Siirtes [сииртес]. Hills of almost quadrangular shape, their inside is empty and represents a quadrangular space, the walls of which are carved with beams like Russian living rooms. Only their roofs were not covered with tesa, why, in almost all caves, they failed or are believed to have been destroyed by industrialists who were looking for prey. Doors or exits of these underground huts were low and always facing east. The underground construction of aboriginal housing (according to A. Schrenk, it was a Finnish miracle [miracle = chud]) better protected from the cold and cold winds.

    From an English-language conclusion of the book:

    Coincidence of the area of settlement of Sikhirtya (according to Nenets legends) and the range of hydronyms on -бей allows you to combine them into a paradigm of genetic connection. Its toponymic field covers in the Arctic zone a vast territory from the Gydan Peninsula in the east to the Bolshezemelskaya tundra on west. Toponyms for -бей have a clear ethnic affinity: they were created by Samoyeds of Kulay culture, who once spoke the Kamasin language. Distribution of toponyms on -бей in the vast territory from the Sayan Mountains in the south to Yamal and the Polar Cis-Urals in the north is associated with the resettlement of Kulay carriers culture around the turn of the era (Fig. 36). It was the descendants of the Kulays that the Nenets, the recent inhabitants of the tundra, called Sikhirtya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    It's not lower than Nenetses. And even though Nenetses have arrived to Europe fairly recently, Siberian-like populations have inhabited the tundra regions of Europe since at least the time of Bolshoy Oleny Ostrov in the second millennium BC.

    According to Nenets tradition, a people called Sikhirtya or Sirtya (Сихиртя or Сиртя) were the former inhabitants of Nenets regions of Europe: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Сиртя.

    A Russian book about Sikhirtya speculated that Sikhirtya were a Samoyedic people who expanded to Europe before Nenetses (https://www.bulgari-istoria-2010.com...y_sibiri_5.pdf):

    B.C. Burdov (1965, p. 257) wrote: "... the hunters of the sea beast, whom the Nenets called Siirtya [сииртя], could be the same Nenets, speaking only a special dialect of the Nenets language." That the Nenets understood the speech of Sikirtya, JI.A Chindina wrote (1992, p. 20).

    The most reliable information should be considered from the Nenets. JI.B. Khomich (1970, 1976, p. 57, 58) quotes the words of the Nenets informant I. Salinder, who explained that they speak "As if in Nenets, only stuttering, but you can understand." If you rely on this message, then we can assume that the language of Sikhirt was Samoyed. [...]

    Perhaps the ethnonym comes from from Nen. сихирць 'acquire an earthy complexion'. Or, according to the position of G.D. Verbova (Khomich L.V., 1976, p. 58), Nen. сихирць 'avoid, avoid'. Of these versions, the second seems to us preferable. L.V. Khomich (1964) proposed the following etymology: the ethnonym is based on the verb сиць 'make a hole, a hole' (Nen. си 'hole, hole'). However, L.P. Lashuk (1968, p. 190, 191) considered this etymology contrary to morphological norms Nenets language. A.V. Golovnev (1998) proposed a different etymology, which he reduces to Nen. си (ся) 'entrance to another world, sacred input'. [...]

    Later, in 1953, V.N. Chernetsov quite definitely connected the ethnonym sikhirtya with the Ugric ethnonym сабир (савыр, сибир, сипыр). He derived the ethnonym s'ihir-t'a [written in the Latin alphabet; the letter h is superscripted] (the restored form s'ibir-t'an) from s'iBir, and he defined the second component -t'an as the general self-name of the Arctic tribes with meaning people. [...]

    V.P. Chernetsov (1935) reported that the Nenets of the Venong clan, the patrimonies of the Northern Yamal, still met on the Yamal people living in earthen houses and hunting for sea animals. Nenets entered with them both in military clashes and in marital unions. V.P. Chernetsov even cites the pedigree of one of the branches of the Wenong clan, whose woman was married to the last sikhirtya. [...]

    Nenets from Dolgoshelje (the tundra to the west of the lower geographic course of the Mezen river in the Urals) consider themselves the descendants of sikhirtya (Khomich JI.B., 1970). Nenka P.A. Khanzerova, who lived in 1968 on the Kanin Peninsula, reported that her grandfather and grandmother also considered themselves descendants of sikhirtya. [...]

    P.-M. Lamartinier in the book "Traveling to the North Country", published in 1671, provides a description of the dwellings of the Borandays [борандайцев], the indigenous inhabitants of the Mezen tundra. Borandays lived in huts that were very carefully made of fish (cetaceans? - A.M.) bones. The huts were also covered with fish bones, mossed on top and lined around turf so good that no wind can penetrate inside otherwise both through doors arranged like a furnace mouth, and through a roof in which a window or hole is arranged through which light penetrates (Vasiliev V.I., 1970, p. 153).

    A. Schrenk (1855) from the words of the Samoyeds gives a rather detailed description of the dwellings of sikhirtya. In the hills lying along the banks of Сииртеты (now the Сибирка River), a tributary of the Kara there are miraculous [чудские; en tiedä tarkoittaako tämä tshuudeja] caves in which copper and cast-iron were once found boilers with tin and lead residues. These hills are known among the Samoyeds under the name of Siirtes [сииртес]. Hills of almost quadrangular shape, their inside is empty and represents a quadrangular space, the walls of which are carved with beams like Russian living rooms. Only their roofs were not covered with tesa, why, in almost all caves, they failed or are believed to have been destroyed by industrialists who were looking for prey. Doors or exits of these underground huts were low and always facing east. The underground construction of aboriginal housing (according to A. Schrenk, it was a Finnish miracle [miracle = chud]) better protected from the cold and cold winds.

    From an English-language conclusion of the book:

    Coincidence of the area of settlement of Sikhirtya (according to Nenets legends) and the range of hydronyms on -бей allows you to combine them into a paradigm of genetic connection. Its toponymic field covers in the Arctic zone a vast territory from the Gydan Peninsula in the east to the Bolshezemelskaya tundra on west. Toponyms for -бей have a clear ethnic affinity: they were created by Samoyeds of Kulay culture, who once spoke the Kamasin language. Distribution of toponyms on -бей in the vast territory from the Sayan Mountains in the south to Yamal and the Polar Cis-Urals in the north is associated with the resettlement of Kulay carriers culture around the turn of the era (Fig. 36). It was the descendants of the Kulays that the Nenets, the recent inhabitants of the tundra, called Sikhirtya.
    My bad. I should have correct myself to lower than most Uralics except those who are predominantly Siberian/Mongoloid. Nenets are predominantly Siberian. They seem to have around 5% EEF

    Target: Nenets
    Distance: 4.2898% / 0.04289797
    68.6 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    10.8 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
    9.2 RUS_AfontovaGora3
    6.0 Baltic_LVA_MN
    5.4 TUR_Barcin_N

    Compared to others like Khanty, Mansi, Selkup and Nganasan, the last one is 100% Mongoloid

    P.S. Bolshoy_Oleni_Ostrov_o is roughly half EHG half Nganasan. It is need to improve the fits of Khanty and Mansi.

    Target: Khanty
    Distance: 4.7326% / 0.04732633
    39.0 RUS_Bolshoy_Oleni_Ostrov_o
    29.4 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    10.8 RUS_AfontovaGora3
    10.2 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
    8.2 TUR_Barcin_N
    2.4 RUS_Volga-Kama_N


    Target: Mansi
    Distance: 4.7191% / 0.04719095
    48.2 RUS_Bolshoy_Oleni_Ostrov_o
    22.8 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    9.8 TUR_Barcin_N
    8.8 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
    7.0 RUS_AfontovaGora3
    3.4 RUS_Volga-Kama_N

    Target: Selkup
    Distance: 5.4834% / 0.05483356
    50.0 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    28.6 RUS_Bolshoy_Oleni_Ostrov_o
    8.6 Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
    7.8 RUS_AfontovaGora3
    5.0 TUR_Barcin_N


    Target: Nganassan: Yukagir Tundra is another Siberian ethnic group.
    Distance: 6.4261% / 0.06426068
    45.2 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    41.8 RUS_Yakutia_Ymyiakhtakh_LN
    12.4 Yukagir_Tundra
    0.6 WHG

    Actually it looks like the Khanty, Mansi, Nenets, Selkup also have some Western Siberian Hunter Gatherer ancestry/WSHG which is predominantly ANE+some EHG (represented by pops like KAZ_Botai, RUS_Tyumen_HG, RUS_Sosonivoy_HG) but it will also raised their EEF slightly a bit.
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    Sardinians are the most unique Europeans because they sre isolated to an island. No question about it.

    Can you test Tungusic Evenks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joqool View Post
    My bad. I should have correct myself to lower than most Uralics except those who are predominantly Siberian/Mongoloid. Nenets are predominantly Siberian. They seem to have around 5% EEF
    There's also Kolvin Nenetses, who are komified Nenetses, who speak the Izhma Komi language, who wear Komi clothes, and who sometimes call themselves Komi. They might be less than 50% Siberian, but they might still have lower EEF than Saami. I haven't seen their genetic results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joqool View Post
    Ancient Saami individual from Levanluhta Iron Age site in Finland.
    I'm still not sure if Levänluhta is Saami. Pauli Rahkonen hypothesized that the Levänluhta burials were associated with a people speaking x-language, which is a term for a hypothetical language or languages that used to be spoken in Finland, which according to Rahkonen are possibly related to Meryan (https://journal.fi/susa/article/view/70231/31260):

    The water burials in the Levänluhta (the Isokyrö parish) and Käldamäki (the former Vöyri parish) sites in Ostrobothnia have been a great mystery for the scholars because of their unique character. The dating of the burials is 5th–8th centuries AD. Similar burials are not known elsewhere in Finland or in its neighbouring areas. [...]

    [Ante Aikio] refers to those unknown languages as _Paleo-Laplandic_ and in the inner parts of Finland _Paleo-Lakelandic_ (Aikio 2004: 64, Fig. 1). Janne Saarikivi (2004) studied obscure substrate words in the Finnish language and called the source language(s) _Paleo-European_. Pauli Rahkonen (2013) treated such hydronyms in the inner parts of Finland that originate from a Uralic language as not being derived from Proto-Finnic or Proto-Saami. He, following Jalo Kalima (1942), calls the language in question _West Uralic x-language_. The onomasticon belonging to this group is located almost exactly in the area of the archaeologically defined Culture of Textile Ceramics (ca 1900-800 BC). These hydronyms are found between the Upper Volga area and Ostrobothnia of Finland (Rahkonen 2013: 181-183, Fig. 24; Häkkinen 2014). [...]

    Saami people, or at least the Saami language, began to spread towards Lapland since the Early Iron Age, but supposedly mainly soon after the beginning of the Common Era (Aikio 2006: 44; Saarikivi 2011). However, the names of the large rivers _Kyrönjoki_, _Vöyrinjoki _and _*Ätsävänjoki _in the studied district do not originate from Proto-Saami. In addition, the Saami people never and nowhere else had the habit of water burials. If the word _kyrö_ < _*kür(V)_ is a substrate word from some ancient Uralic language and if _vöyri_ is related to a possible Meryan word _*voγra_ and _*ätsä_ to Komi _adź_ < _*änč_(_V_), a very possible language behind these hydronyms is the above mentioned x-language. Such stems of toponyms as _vuoht-_, _voht-_ < Proto-Uralic _*ukti̮_ 'track over neck of land' and _vieksi-_, _vääksy-_, _viiks-_ 'short river or sound between two larger waters' are inherited from the language in question (Rahkonen 2013: 33-36, maps 24 and 25). The x-language arrived in Finland with the culture of Textile Ceramics (ibid.) and it is probable that its dialects were spoken for a long time alongside with Proto-Saami in the inlands of Finland. Levänluhta and Käldamäki are located on the approximate borderline of the culture of eastern Textile Ceramics.

    However, it is also possible that the population who practiced water burials spoke some non-Uralic Paleo-European language. The uniting factor between the stems of the toponyms _*ätsä-_ and _vöyri-_ is that both of them are almost unique, especially if the stems _veur-_ and/or _vour-_ are not connected with _vöyri_. The rareness of these toponyms, together with the unique custom to practice water burials, hints at a linguistic and ethnic isolate.

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    True. But they lacked East Eurasian/Siberian ancestry which is pretty unique in Europe as most Euros have literally negligible to zero amounts of it. Which is why I think Saamis are more unique because they have loads of East Eurasian. Also the fact that Saamis have very low EEF compared to most Euros is what makes me think they are more unique than Sardinians as most Euros also have substantial amounts of Neolithic.

    I can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Sardinians are the most unique Europeans because they sre isolated to an island. No question about it.

    Can you test Tungusic Evenks?
    True. But they lacked East Eurasian/Siberian ancestry which is pretty unique in Europe as most Euros have literally negligible to zero amounts of it. Which is why I think Saamis are more unique because they have loads of East Eurasian. Also the fact that Saamis have very low EEF compared to most Euros is what makes me think they are more unique than Sardinians as most Euros also have substantial amounts of Neolithic.

    I can do that. Wait awhile as im on my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Sardinians are the most unique Europeans because they sre isolated to an island. No question about it.

    Can you test Tungusic Evenks?
    True. But they lacked East Eurasian/Siberian ancestry which is pretty unique in Europe as most Euros have literally negligible to zero amounts of it. Which is why I think Saamis are more unique because they have loads of East Eurasian. Also the fact that Saamis have very low EEF compared to most Euros is what makes me think they are more unique than Sardinians as most Euros also have substantial amounts of Neolithic.

    I can do that. Wait awhile as im on my phone.

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    I haven't seen genetic results of European Nenetses compared to Siberian Nenetses. Some anthropologists considered European Nenetses or Kolvins to represent different types than Siberian Nenetses (http://heritage-institute.ru/wp-cont...anij_Tom_1.pdf, translated):

    The Nenets across the entire ethnic range from the White sea to Taimyr are characterized, in comparison with the ents and especially with the Nganasans, by a significant weakening of Mongoloid features and a decrease in many head and face sizes, primarily latitudinal; their body length is small – up to 160 cm on average in men. Despite the high level of mongoloidness on the West Siberian scale, the physical type of the Nenets includes very characteristic Ural features, namely, soft hair, reduced pigmentation of hair and eyes, a less flattened face, a high percentage of the concave shape of the back of the nose with an extremely rare convex shape, a relatively wide nose in the wings. This makes it possible to include this complex in the contact Uralic, or West Siberian according to Bagashev, race as one of the most Mongoloid and, obviously, autochthonous variants in the Far North. I suggested calling it the "North Ural" type of the Ural race.

    Racial type of the Nenets (which delineates the Northern periphery of the Ural race) is included anthropologists in its composition since the mid-twentieth century: Shluger and Cheboksarov in relation to the European tundra Nenets Small and Big Land as laponoidnye type Ural race, and Debetz and Levin as the Ural type (or race), against primarily the Asian tundra groups, including the Yenisei variant (or type) North of the Nenets of the Yamal Peninsula. S. A. Shluger himself considered the Yenisei variant as part of the South Siberian race.
    At present, when significant anthropological differences between the Finno-speaking and Ugro-Samoyed populations have been convincingly proved, it is advisable to support the second concept of the area of the modern Uralic race, limiting it only to the Western one Siberia with the adjacent part of the European (Nenets) Arctic. In essence, the Uralic race currently acts as a buffer Ural-Altaic group of types ("race") – intermediate between large racial trunks in Eurasia (Western - European and East – Asian Mongoloid) and intermediate complexes of complex Genesis in the Altai-Sayans. It is logical to include several well-known complexes (anthropologically peculiar, geographically related, racogenetically mixed by the main mechanism of education, historically related). On a global scale, they represent a single transition array that occupies most of the Western part of Siberia:
    1) the Ural type proper (represented by the Khanty and Mansi),
    2) Ob-Irtysh type (Selkups, Chulyms, part of the Siberian Tatars, others - among the Khakass-Kyzyl people and in a number of groups of Siberian Tatars),
    3) North Ural type (Nenets, except Kolvinsky),
    4) Yenisei type (Kets),
    5) transitional to the South Siberian type ("race") - the North Altai type according to A. R. Kim, also known as the Ural-Altaic type of A. I. Yarcho (Shors, a part of the Teleut, Northern Altaians, and part of the Khakas). In the classification, it is legitimate to consider the position of this type as the Northern periphery of the area of the South Siberian race as the Altai-Sayan type in the terminology of V. p. Alekseev.

    Two Nenetses from the G25 datasheet clustered together with Khanty:



    Code:
    curl -Ls 'drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HYrDwxEXv82DvDLoq736pS5ZTGJA4dn5'>modernind
    awk -F: 'NR==FNR{a[$0];next}FNR==1||$1 in a' <(printf %s\\n Besermyan Finnish Finnish_East Ingrian Karelian Komi Mari Mordovian Saami Saami_Kola Udmurt Vepsian Nenets Nganassan Selkup Khanty Mansi Estonian Hungarian) modernind>picks
    R -e 'library(ggplot2);library(factoextra);library(colorspace)
    t<-read.csv("picks",header=T,row.names=1)
    p<-prcomp(t)
    k<-hkmeans(p$x,16)
    pct<-paste0(colnames(p$x)," (",round(p$sdev/sum(p$sdev)*100,1),"%)")
    ggplot(p$x,aes(x=PC1,y=PC2,label=rownames(p$x)))+
    theme_dark()+
    geom_text(aes(color=as.factor(k$cluster)),size=2,show.legend=F)+
    theme(
      plot.background=element_rect(fill="gray35"),
      panel.background=element_rect(fill="gray20"),
      panel.grid.major=element_line(color="gray35"),
      panel.grid.minor=element_blank(),
      text=element_text(color="gray10"),
      axis.text=element_text(color="gray10"),
      axis.ticks.x=element_blank(),
      axis.ticks.y=element_blank()
    )+
    scale_x_continuous(breaks=seq(-1,1,.1),expand=expansion(mult=.17))+
    scale_y_continuous(breaks=seq(-1,1,.1),expand=expansion(mult=.05))+
    xlab(pct[1])+ylab(pct[2])+
    scale_color_discrete_qualitative(palette="Set 3")
    ggsave("a.png")'

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    True. But they lacked East Eurasian/Siberian ancestry which is pretty unique in Europe as most Euros have literally negligible to zero amounts of it. Which is why I think Saamis are more unique because they have loads of East Eurasian. Also the fact that Saamis have very low EEF compared to most Euros is what makes me think they are more unique than Sardinians as most Euros also have substantial amounts of Neolithic.

    I can do that.
    Yeah, but many East European FU populations share same East Eurasisn ancestry with Saamis. Sardinians share common farmer ancestry with Europeans, but in terms of uniquity Sardinians are very special. Btw, TUR_Barcin_N doesn't represent EEF.

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