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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    I have a feeling that guy is french haha, guy to his right same nose, ears, woman to his left darker. Maybe an exotic :?
    Woman to his left is French certainly, the scarf man is nearly as dark as Obama, you yourself would look more typical in that crowd imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Woman to his left is French certainly, the scarf man is nearly as dark as Obama, you yourself would look more typical in that crowd imo.
    the french?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    the french?
    i meant you look more French than the Pink scarf man i showed, you would both by atypical for France however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Young man in pink scarf, would be questioned by the Guardia civil and asked to provide documents if he was seen wandering through Spain, old man in front with beard looks so British the French gendarmerie might ask him to provide papers to justify his reasons for being in France during the pandemic
    you complain for a possible immigrant among hundreds and hundreds of French... yet you had the guts of posting this to show the phenotype of Spaniards hahaha


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0 View Post

    A different study----- page 461

    https://bvpb.mcu.es/es/catalogo_imag...do?path=150962

    The data has been taken from 3,261 delinquent deserters and includes all the provinces of Spain except the Canary Islands.

    Dark eyes


    Blue eyes


    Bluish eyes (between blue and green).




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    I've made maps based on this study and posted it a while back:






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    Is this Oliver guy for real? Lmao, he is hilarious (unintentionally?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defcon2 View Post
    Galicia has darker eyes than Andalusians, a Celtic myth falls.
    Those kind of maps or stadistics are always wrongly done. Probably they used soldiers to do that stadistics, so they left half the population out (women), and probably some classes (high classes not sending their best sons to military duties), so they are not reliable.

    Those stadistics are so irreal that Aragonese are the ones with the most blond-blue eyed combination yet later in skin pigmentation they are one of the darkest. So, no sense at all since skin tone is related with the genes for blue eyes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Map generally makes sense, not surprised at the Galicia results given it's strong connections with Portugal as well as being on the periphery of Spain, the Celts only really impacted Britain and France and only i imagine sent some of their soldiers to Spain so the Celtic heritage there is probably no bigger than the Roman heritage in England. Am surprised to see Murcia so light, when i went there it just seemed more or less within the Spanish mean and a little darker than Valencia if anything, Valencia is often quite a light region though pretty similar in general to Madrid.
    The issue with Galicia is, as you say, we are at the periphery of Spain, for good or for bad. We probably are the less indoeuropean of Spain (for being at the corner less people could have arrived here in great numbers during the indoeuropean invasions) and this is probably the reason why we also have the record of """Northafrican""" DNA, which in reality is proto-European or protoMed or less indoeuropean (since northafricans 5000 years ago were probably as pure or White as the average European with lots of Farmer heritage).

    There are facts about Galicia like we hold the records in celtic and germanic toponimia, and probably in celtic remains, so these remains come from somewhere, so those celts and germanics came. And that is what we are, a mix of the oldest DNA of Spain + the more germanic at the same time. And that is why we have the most swarthy people (old DNA) but also some of the most light people (not in total numbers, but how light some people are) and then lots of combinations in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Map generally makes sense, not surprised at the Galicia results given it's strong connections with Portugal as well as being on the periphery of Spain, the Celts only really impacted Britain and France and only i imagine sent some of their soldiers to Spain so the Celtic heritage there is probably no bigger than the Roman heritage in England. Am surprised to see Murcia so light, when i went there it just seemed more or less within the Spanish mean and a little darker than Valencia if anything, Valencia is often quite a light region though pretty similar in general to Madrid.
    You have to understand that the impact of the Celts upon the Iberian was not as strong as that of the Isles, Belgium, northern France, Switzerland, Austria, etc.... Due to the fact that there were already well established populations there. However, this doesn’t mean Celtic did not settle there, they did. They mostly came by way of southern France. At one point, they dominated militarily. Celtic intermingled with the much larger Iberian population to form a mixed population. Remember Iberians are much more genetically diverse than Northern European populations due to their geographical location.

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    This is how the celts in Spain probably looked like: just brunettes with light skin:



    The myth of being redheads is probably fairy tales from the romantic era of the XIX century writers. Obviously there could be a minority of redheads, and probably in other places the celts could look different since they could probably were a multitude of different groups or tribes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    I got one from Navarre, the vibe just seems different,
    The majority are typical Spaniards ( Meds), while some individuals look as if they have non - European admixtures. The woman with yellow shirt especially and one with glasses.

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