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    Shqiptarët në Argjentinë
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    During the great immigration from South Italians towards Argentina, there were also a lot of Arbershe people. They became part of the great European immigration towards South America in the 19th Century. Most Albanians who migrated to Argentina were Arbëresh from southern Italy, while the rise of Albanian exiles in Argentina occurred in the early 20th century, with the arrival of about 20,000-30,000 Albanians, many went on to be mixed with Italians and locals and thus, were no longer able to speak Albanian language. Its official presence in Argentina is documented in Berisso since 1907, when the Albanian Society was founded.


    Today, apart from some families in Rosario and Córdoba, almost all Albanians of Argentina live in Buenos Aires. Every year, on 28 November, the Albanian Patriotic Society of Skanderbeg (Asociación Patriotica Albanesa Skenderbeu) celebrates the Flag Day with traditional Albanian songs and foods.


    According to religion, most Albanians in Argentina are Christians, while a minority are Muslims.



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    No human flourishes under slavery, though on the other hand many negroes are not fully human/capable of freedom/rational thought.
    Being a wild animal in Africa would be kinda cool though. They would't bear the burden of overcomplicated lifestyles with expectations left and right. Imagine just sleeping, hunting, eating, and fucking all day.
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    How is it white? They're latinas.

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    Ernesto Sabato


    Ernesto Sabato (June 24, 1911 – April 30, 2011) was an Argentine novelist, essayist, painter and physicist. Won some of the most prestigious prizes in Hispanic literature and "became very influential in the literary world throughout Latin America". Upon his death El País dubbed him the "last classic writer in Argentine literature".

    Ernesto Sabato was born on June 24, 1911, in Rojas, Buenos Aires Province, son of Francesco Sabato and Giovanna Maria Ferrari, Italian immigrants from Calabria. His father was from Fuscaldo, and his mother was an Arbëreshë (Albanian minority in Italy) from San Martino di Finita. He was the tenth of a total of eleven children. Being born after his ninth brother's death, he carried on his name "Ernesto".

    Sabato's oeuvre includes three novels: El Túnel (1948), Sobre héroes y tumbas (1961) and Abaddón el exterminador (1974). The first of these received critical acclaim upon its publication from, among others, fellow writers Albert Camus and Thomas Mann. The second is regarded as his masterpiece, though he nearly burnt it like many of his other works. Sabato's essays cover topics as diverse as metaphysics, politics and tango. His writings led him to receive many international prizes, includingthe Miguel de Cervantes Prize (Spain), the Legion of Honour (France), and the Prix du Meilleur Livre Étranger (France).

    At the request of President Raúl Alfonsín, he presided over the CONADEP commission that investigated the fate of those who suffered forced disappearance during the Dirty War of the 1970s. The result of these findings was published in 1984 bearing the title Nunca Más (Never Again).

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    No human flourishes under slavery, though on the other hand many negroes are not fully human/capable of freedom/rational thought.
    Being a wild animal in Africa would be kinda cool though. They would't bear the burden of overcomplicated lifestyles with expectations left and right. Imagine just sleeping, hunting, eating, and fucking all day.
    No worries about like corrupt governments or having to get a shitty job for the rest of your life.
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    How is it white? They're latinas.

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    I've seen one Arbreshe result and it plotted among south italians

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    that's pretty interesting and unexpected, how many of them are orthodox? or have them converted to catholicism?

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    I'am curious about genetic study among this community.
    As they are mainly from another community in Sicilia, I wonder if they are really still mainly descendant of albanians or the link is only "mythical" or "cultural"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kriptc06 View Post
    that's pretty interesting and unexpected, how many of them are orthodox? or have them converted to catholicism?
    I guess 3rd and 4rd generations are assimilated and blend in our Christian Secular or Secular Christian Society. I found disparate information about their Christian denomination but you can find orthodox priests from the community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    I'am curious about genetic study among this community.
    As they are mainly from another community in Sicilia, I wonder if they are really still mainly descendant of albanians or the link is only "mythical" or "cultural"
    and in Calabria.

    I am not an expert in Arbëresh ppl.

    I urge the albos of TA to do a research and enlighten us.
    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    No human flourishes under slavery, though on the other hand many negroes are not fully human/capable of freedom/rational thought.
    Being a wild animal in Africa would be kinda cool though. They would't bear the burden of overcomplicated lifestyles with expectations left and right. Imagine just sleeping, hunting, eating, and fucking all day.
    No worries about like corrupt governments or having to get a shitty job for the rest of your life.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    How is it white? They're latinas.

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    I met an Argentine girl years back in a hostel which upon finding out I was Albanian seemed very enthusiastic. Later I found out that she's Arbereshe and actually visited her ancestors' village in Calabria.

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    I'll contribute with a pic:


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    Quote Originally Posted by safinator View Post
    I met an Argentine girl years back in a hostel which upon finding out I was Albanian seemed very enthusiastic. Later I found out that she's Arbereshe and actually visited her ancestors' village in Calabria.
    Yes, many argentines who have the possibility to travel to know the place of origin of their ancestors, especially Italians or, in this case, italo-albanians.
    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    No human flourishes under slavery, though on the other hand many negroes are not fully human/capable of freedom/rational thought.
    Being a wild animal in Africa would be kinda cool though. They would't bear the burden of overcomplicated lifestyles with expectations left and right. Imagine just sleeping, hunting, eating, and fucking all day.
    No worries about like corrupt governments or having to get a shitty job for the rest of your life.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    How is it white? They're latinas.

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