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    Default Why isn't Basque language indo-European, if vast majority of Basques are R1a and R1b?

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    Is the r1b from mixing with Spaniards?
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    I know. I'm really too short to be a model. I'm only 5'10.5 . What really depresses me is that I'm too short to play Superman. I don't think he's ever been under 6 ft. I am over 6 ft in cowboy boots, though.
    I would have made a great Superman.
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    A lot of folks ask me if I'm a plus sized male model.

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    Well it's easy... nothin weird, language doesn't always go hand to hand with Y-DNA.

    Because of vast invasion of Indoeuropean R1b on Iberian peninsula from ancient times (even before Romans ever came there), like from Ibero-Celtic times, Basque people just became indoeuropeized by R1b, means they became indoeuropeized by genetic BUT NOT BY LANGUAGE.

    That is the uniqueness about Basque people, they KEPT their language, even though mixing with IndoEuropeans.

    You have the same case with Hungarians who are much younger european people than Basques, Hungarians arrived in 9th century in Europe, from then they're already R1a people by genetic (most dominant genetic in Hungarians), yet hungarians speak non-indoeuropean language.

    P.S. But there is somethin much more fascinating about Basque than they're genetic combined with language, it's their BLOOD GROUPS, 40% of Basques are RH negative blood groups.

    Having in mind that only 15% of World population (and all of those 15% are in Europe) are RH negative blood group, having in mind that Basques have the highest percentage of that RH negative blood groups, I think I dont need to say anything more.

    They are truly unique people.

    Oh and yeah, I am RH negative blood group

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    Why Northern Native americans are not indo european?(some southern native americans too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    Why Northern Native americans are not indo european?(some southern native americans too)
    Basques have decent amount of autosomal ancestry from yamnaya, I think amerinds don't have any.
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    I think the basque language is a mesolithic survivor and the oldest langauge in the world, older than chinese or indian.

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    While the father is out there raiding farming villages and breeding horses, it is mother's duty to educate the children in a time where there was no school. In Southern Europe, these first mothers who married with the IE invaders were overwhelmingly native farmers. Before Roman expansions, a huge portion of Southern Europe spoke non IE languages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I think the basque language is a mesolithic survivor and the oldest langauge in the world, older than chinese or indian.
    Elder then Hebrew and Armenian?

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    Basques are the pre-IE survivors of Iberia. Either this haplogroup was already present before IE-expansion or it has to do with some kind of population emerging process. Besides of that in my knowledge they are still distant to all in Europe, even a bit to Spanish people(or?). I read that according Roman sources there were some mixing with other groups so having some steppe admixture isn’t really surprising. A bit off topic maybe but interesting, some claim there is a connection to Caucasus, at least we can say that both groups survived the IE-expansion and are maybe even older than any other language in Western Eurasia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    Well it's easy... nothin weird, language doesn't always go hand to hand with Y-DNA.

    Because of vast invasion of Indoeuropean R1b on Iberian peninsula from ancient times (even before Romans ever came there), like from Ibero-Celtic times, Basque people just became indoeuropeized by R1b, means they became indoeuropeized by genetic BUT NOT BY LANGUAGE.

    That is the uniqueness about Basque people, they KEPT their language, even though mixing with IndoEuropeans.

    You have the same case with Hungarians who are much younger european people than Basques, Hungarians arrived in 9th century in Europe, from then they're already R1a people by genetic (most dominant genetic in Hungarians), yet hungarians speak non-indoeuropean language.

    P.S. But there is somethin much more fascinating about Basque than they're genetic combined with language, it's their BLOOD GROUPS, 40% of Basques are RH negative blood groups.

    Having in mind that only 15% of World population (and all of those 15% are in Europe) are RH negative blood group, having in mind that Basques have the highest percentage of that RH negative blood groups, I think I dont need to say anything more.

    They are truly unique people.

    Oh and yeah, I am RH negative blood group
    The higher percentage of negative RH among basques is due to endogamy.

    About the language, I think you are right.
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