10-20% of Ashkenazi Jews can pass utterly unnoticed in the British isles

[Hoihey]

It's also arbitary. My idea of passing is different from someone else's - a lot of people probably think passing is someone who could be mistaken for something, which is a pointless measurement between 'Whites' for the reasons you stated, most Europeans could 'pass atypically' in most of the rest of Europe by these standards. I would consider passing as someone who would rarely if ever be guessed as foreign IRL, based on looks. And then specifically looking something is another thing altogether.

What I mean by passing is if they were in the British isles and they lived among the populace nobody would ever think they had foreign ancestry. They would just think their indigenous white britons. If one day a Jew decided to mention their ethnicity then folks would go like “huh, I hadn’t thought you were special in any way I just assumed you to be a regular English/Scottish/Welsh bloke”

[Hoihey]

That's actually incredibly irellevant statement, Jews come in many shapes, some can be even 100% genetically British and be jews. It's like saying some Americans can pass as Brits unnoticed.

Ashkenazi Jews cluster with other ashkenazi Jews, they form a distinctive ethnicity. What you said is like saying that Britains can be 100% genetically Nigerian and still be British. In some aspects, yes, in others, not so much.

[TheMaestro]

Ashkenazi Jews cluster with other ashkenazi Jews, they form a distinctive ethnicity. What you said is like saying that Britains can be 100% genetically Nigerian and still be British. In some aspects, yes, in others, not so much.

Bullshit, yes an average ashkenazi can cluster doesn't mean all Ashkenazi are like that. You realize when a woman marries an Ashkenazi she becomes an Ashkenazi????? Oh surprise she could be British insane how can they look like Brits when you can literally show milions of examples like this. Those who look like Brits can most certainly be genetically Brits, so you don't make any sense.

[Hoihey]

Inbreeding doesn't affect appearance as far as I know. It can give defects and deformites, but those who are inbred and healthy don't show these symptoms. An inbred half- MENA and half-Euro who turns out healthy will still show influence from both groups. Maybe climate changed their looks?

The whole reason why ethnicities cluster with each other and share certain features is because of inbreeding. Korean people wouldn’t look the way they did if tens of thousands of years ago, a perticularly odd looking man had children with his cousin, also perticularly odd looking (for the time) and their small tight knit clan spread to an uninhabited area and kept interbreeding for thousands of years. It’s the reason why whites and Asians and Indians look the way they do.

[Jon96]

The whole reason why ethnicities cluster with each other and share certain features is because of inbreeding. Korean people wouldn’t look the way they did if tens of thousands of years ago, a perticularly odd looking man had children with his cousin, also perticularly odd looking (for the time) and their small tight knit clan spread to an uninhabited area and kept interbreeding for thousands of years. It’s the reason why whites and Asians and Indians look the way they do.

This is after a long long time of interbreeding. Have Jews been in Europe for that long?

[Hoihey]

Bullshit, yes an average ashkenazi can cluster doesn't mean all Ashkenazi are like that. You realize when a woman marries an Ashkenazi she becomes an Ashkenazi????? Oh surprise she could be British insane how can they look like Brits when you can literally show milions of examples like this. Those who look like Brits can most certainly be genetically Brits, so you don't make any sense.

Well most Jews (orthodox in particular) are genetically Jewish(intermarriage only becoming a factor in the last 50 years), that’s why I decided to post pictures of those folks. In all likelihood, they are Jewish by ethnicity. There are certainly some converts, but they are very few in number as Judaism doesn’t proselytize and converts generally don’t convert to Orthodox Judaism. Many of the folks in my pictures are Haredim and you can count the number of converts they accept in a decade on your 2 hands.

[Immanenz]

The whole reason why ethnicities cluster with each other and share certain features is because of inbreeding. Korean people wouldn’t look the way they did if tens of thousands of years ago, a perticularly odd looking man had children with his cousin, also perticularly odd looking (for the time) and their small tight knit clan spread to an uninhabited area and kept interbreeding for thousands of years. It’s the reason why whites and Asians and Indians look the way they do.

[Hoihey]

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[Hoihey]

This is after a long long time of interbreeding. Have Jews been in Europe for that long?

The ones from West/Central and Eastern Europe have been living there for about 2000 years.

[Smitty]

I only recently learned Kirk Douglas was an (100%) Ashkenazi Jew. Nothing about his appearance suggested to me he had any ancestry besides NW European

I've always known he was Jewish, so I may be biased, but I think he actually does look Jewish, especially as he aged (the '70s). The eyes, as so often is the case with Jews, are a clue. His son, despite being only half Jewish, looks even more so in my opinion.