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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Quite a few i think pass in England though for some reason they tend to resemble the middle and upper classes more(perhaps greater proportions of subnordid and Noric elements?)
    They're just too Nordic to pass among the lower class. According to Hoihey Nordics and North Atlantids are common among Jews.

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    20% is too much, 10% maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    I only recently learned Kirk Douglas was an (100%) Ashkenazi Jew. Nothing about his appearance suggested to me he had any ancestry besides NW European
    Paul Rudd is also NW Euro looking.

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    Jews in the UK are heavily mixed with surrounding population and you can tell with the pictures of extended families, some look non typecast jewish and others clearly do, like Sacha Baron Cohen

    From the pics 10-15% would pass perhaps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon96 View Post
    Very interesting. Does it impact features as well? Do you have any sources? Where can I read more about this? Lastly, do you think most Jews look full Native Europeans?
    I don't have any sources, but old anthropologists listed Ashkenazi Jews as being lighter than all Southern Europeans, despite having similar ancient ancestry as, for example, Sicilians. Supercomputer already quoted all of that data in various threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoihey View Post
    What I mean by passing is if they were in the British isles and they lived among the populace nobody would ever think they had foreign ancestry. They would just think their indigenous white britons. If one day a Jew decided to mention their ethnicity then folks would go like “huh, I hadn’t thought you were special in any way I just assumed you to be a regular English/Scottish/Welsh bloke”
    People will say that about almost anyone who doesn't look too Meddish though, most people are pretty unobservant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    Paul Rudd is also NW Euro looking.
    He's half Jewish, though, as are Scarlett Johansson and Michael Landon and Paul Newman and a lot of others frequently cited here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    I don't have any sources, but old anthropologists listed Ashkenazi Jews as being lighter than all Southern Europeans, despite having similar ancient ancestry as, for example, Sicilians. Supercomputer already quoted all of that data in various threads.
    In terms of the frequencies of light hair and light eyes we seem to be closest to Europeans between (46 North and 41 North) including Serbs like yourself. It is more often for us to be light eyed than it is for us to be light haired. Those of us with lighter eyes tend to have more greyish eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    He's half Jewish, though, as are Scarlett Johansson and Michael Landon and Paul Newman and a lot of others frequently cited here.
    No Paul Rudd is fully Ashkenazi Jewish. His fathers ancestors are in red and his mothers are in blue

    1. Paul Rudd b. April 6, 1969, Passaic, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States
    2. Michael Rudd b. February 24, 1942, Edgware, Greater London, England, United Kingdom; d. October 17, 2008
    3. David (Davis) Rudd b. 1908, London, Greater London, England, United Kingdom
    4. Shmuel Aryeh Nehemov (Samuel) Rudnitsky b. 1877, Kholmech', Brasovsky District, Bryansk Oblast, Russia (Russian Federation); d. December 23, 1950
    5. Aryeh Nehemov Rudnitsky
    5. Sura Rudnitsky
    4. Esther Rudnitsky b. January 20, 1881, Kholmech', Brasovsky District, Bryansk Oblast, Russia (Russian Federation); d. July 19, 1953
    5. Yitzhak Schustan
    5. Dvora Schustan
    3. Bessie Barnett Rudd b. February 27, 1907, Łódź, Łódź, Łódź Voivodeship, Poland; d. November 1985, Lodi, Bergen County, New Jersey, United States
    4. Boruch Symcha Barnett b. 1878, Wlodawa, Włodawa County, Lublin Voivodeship, Poland
    4. Ethel Barnett b. March 12, 1881, Wlodawa, Włodawa County, Lublin Voivodeship, Poland

    2. <private> Rudd (Granville)
    3. Louis Granville b. July 16, 1916, Mile End, Greater London, England, United Kingdom
    4. Charles Goldstein b. April 6, 1894, Wolbrom, Olkusz County, Lesser Poland Voivodeship, Poland; d. June 21, 1966
    4. Mariam Goldstein b. May 4, 1894, Łódź, Łódź, Łódź Voivodeship, Poland
    5. Label Schneiderman
    3. Minnie Granville b. June 14, 1918, Bethnal Green, Greater London, England, United Kingdom
    4. Isaac Gayer b. July 9, 1893, Wlodawa, Włodawa County, Lublin Voivodeship, Poland; d. 1938, Bethnal Green, Greater London, England, United Kingdom
    4. Betsy Gayer b. January 19, 1894


    People often use examples of people who are only half Ashkenazi sometimes even a quarter Ashkenazi and that is obviously an issue but Paul Rudd is indeed fully Ashkenazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    No Paul Rudd is fully Ashkenazi Jewish. His fathers ancestors are in red and his mothers are in blue

    1. Paul Rudd b. April 6, 1969, Passaic, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States
    2. Michael Rudd b. February 24, 1942, Edgware, Greater London, England, United Kingdom; d. October 17, 2008
    3. David (Davis) Rudd b. 1908, London, Greater London, England, United Kingdom
    4. Shmuel Aryeh Nehemov (Samuel) Rudnitsky b. 1877, Kholmech', Brasovsky District, Bryansk Oblast, Russia (Russian Federation); d. December 23, 1950
    5. Aryeh Nehemov Rudnitsky
    5. Sura Rudnitsky
    4. Esther Rudnitsky b. January 20, 1881, Kholmech', Brasovsky District, Bryansk Oblast, Russia (Russian Federation); d. July 19, 1953
    5. Yitzhak Schustan
    5. Dvora Schustan
    3. Bessie Barnett Rudd b. February 27, 1907, Łódź, Łódź, Łódź Voivodeship, Poland; d. November 1985, Lodi, Bergen County, New Jersey, United States
    4. Boruch Symcha Barnett b. 1878, Wlodawa, Włodawa County, Lublin Voivodeship, Poland
    4. Ethel Barnett b. March 12, 1881, Wlodawa, Włodawa County, Lublin Voivodeship, Poland

    2. <private> Rudd (Granville)
    3. Louis Granville b. July 16, 1916, Mile End, Greater London, England, United Kingdom
    4. Charles Goldstein b. April 6, 1894, Wolbrom, Olkusz County, Lesser Poland Voivodeship, Poland; d. June 21, 1966
    4. Mariam Goldstein b. May 4, 1894, Łódź, Łódź, Łódź Voivodeship, Poland
    5. Label Schneiderman
    3. Minnie Granville b. June 14, 1918, Bethnal Green, Greater London, England, United Kingdom
    4. Isaac Gayer b. July 9, 1893, Wlodawa, Włodawa County, Lublin Voivodeship, Poland; d. 1938, Bethnal Green, Greater London, England, United Kingdom
    4. Betsy Gayer b. January 19, 1894


    People often use examples of people who are only half Ashkenazi sometimes even a quarter Ashkenazi and that is obviously an issue but Paul Rudd is indeed fully Ashkenazi.
    You're right. I stand corrected. I confused him with Paul Newman.

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