Loser Parents = Loser Children?

[Tannhauser]

Or vice versa winner parents = winner children. ganadores hijos ganadores.

Do you think there is some kind of correlation?

[Rædwald]

Define loser?

[Dr_Maul]

Not always. Many successful people came from poorer/""loser"" backgrounds, however yes there is an overall correlation I would say.

[PaleoEuropean]

Of course, but it's mostly nurture more than nature. You can see it in poor white areas here in America, some of the white trash families come from wealthy and sometimes royal stock, but they have been stuck in cycles of poverty, domestic violence etc. For instance if I became a drunk, abusive and not gave a fuck I could effect my offspring for generations to come until someone managed to break that cycle of poverty etc. There are families and people who pull themselves out of those messed up cycles though even among black families, native american etc. I wouldn't say genetics or anything has a major part.

[Tannhauser]

Define loser?

And winner!

The definition is up to you:

winner: Alpha, Chad,...,etc.
loser: Beta, Incel,...,etc.

The thing is if you think it is transmittable to the next generation in some way and how.

[PaleoEuropean]

And winner!

The definition is up to you:

winner: Alpha, Chad,...,etc.
loser: Beta, Incel,...,etc.

The thing is if you think it is transmittable to the next generation in some way and how.

I would say alpha and beta males is somewhat more genetic. But one can have a A type personality and manipulate women and still be a loser. I have known dudes who were shit humans, not conventionally attractive but A type enough to get a lot of women. Attraction and sex are odd things. But if you are talking a real chad who can hold down a job, is charismatic and attractive physically it is definitely more nature. You can woof all you want but at the end of the day a real man is easy to pick apart from a boy pretending to be a man not just physically either. I think a lot of the incel behavior is learned though, a lot of it stems from insecurity.

[Tannhauser]

I would say alpha and beta males is somewhat more genetic. But one can have a A type personality and manipulate women and still be a loser. I have known dudes who were shit humans, not conventionally attractive but A type enough to get a lot of women. Attraction and sex are odd things. But if you are talking a real chad who can hold down a job, is charismatic and attractive physically it is definitely more nature. You can woof all you want but at the end of the day a real man is easy to pick apart from a boy pretending to be a man not just physically either. I think a lot of the incel behavior is learned though, a lot of it stems from insecurity.

Good Paleo, good.

Would you say that the union of parents with B type personality gives children with such characteristics?

[Flashball]

It depends on the definition of "looser".

Make more money?

I come from a working-class and peasant family, like 99% of native French people (three of my French grandparents were workers, my maternal great-great-grandfather was a mason, like his father, and my great-grandfather paternal was a minor).

My father worked after he get his primary diploma (14 years) in several jobs.

In the case of my friend, whether on the side of his Venetian ancestors (his great-grandfather was a peasant and poor, fascist politics helped him a lot, that's why he was pro-fascist), than on the side of his French ancestors (his maternal great-grandfather was a farmer).

My maternal grandfather (born in 1925, who lived in Algeria during the French occupation) was a miner, then a welder and then an oilman. His parents were farmers, workers.

[Radimir]

No. All it takes to be a winner is having the will to succeed. Background is irrelevant.

[KirillMazur]

Under capitalism (at the current stage), when social lifts hardly work, and the starting conditions are extremely unequal, since the initial accumulation of capital and monopolization have already been completed, this is true with a high degree of probability.