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    Being successful is within your own potential, someone's born into a good family and end up being a drug addict and a shitty person. Someone came from an orphanage and makes his life to be the best regarding his circumstances. Genetics has to do with our wellbeing, how healthy one person is, how smart or, how dominant or sex driven is for example.. this is all scientifically valid. But willingness is a lot more in this case, everyone can be "successful".



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    Lightbulb common miss-conceptions

    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    Under capitalism (at the current stage), when social lifts hardly work, and
    1 - the starting conditions are extremely unequal,

    2 - since the initial accumulation of capital and monopolization have already been completed,
    this is true with a high degree of probability.
    1 - capitalism is the free exchange of surplus
    between individuals
    to their reciprocal benefit.

    it is not a dog-eat-dog competition.


    greatly improving my resources
    did not involve racing against some one
    that began with significant resources.

    it was a matter of moving far past my starting-point.


    2 - capital is constantly being produced:
    it is the difference between your production and your consumption.

    there is not a finite amount of capital
    that has been accumulated and monopolised
    in the hands of a few - leaving all future generations as beggars.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Benyzero View Post
    Being successful is within your own potential, someone's born into a good family and end up being a drug addict and a shitty person. Someone came from an orphanage and makes his life to be the best regarding his circumstances. Genetics has to do with our wellbeing, how healthy one person is, how smart or, how dominant or sex driven is for example.. this is all scientifically valid. But willingness is a lot more in this case, everyone can be "successful".
    I don't think willingness is a lot more. Define willingness.
    If you are really unlucky on genetic lottery then you end up being sick since early childhood and sometimes without hope really.
    If you have decent genetics + good environment, then of course hard work can make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Probably from nurture, I think you can recessive personality traits that could shine through though. Especially if we are talking about testosterone influenced behavior.
    we really tune the same channel on this matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    ¿Suerte? suerte tienes tú que hablas un idioma universal gracias a los actos de esos españoles. Igual que llevar ropa. Tienes suerte que os domesticamos. De no ser por nosotros iríais en bolas cazando monos con flechas, y el mayor avance tecnológico que conoceríais sería untarlas con veneno de rana para matar antes vuestras presas.
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    How is it white? They're latinas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    I don't think willingness is a lot more. Define willingness.
    If you are really unlucky on genetic lottery then you end up being sick since early childhood and sometimes without hope really.
    If you have decent genetics + good environment, then of course hard work can make a difference.
    absolutely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    ¿Suerte? suerte tienes tú que hablas un idioma universal gracias a los actos de esos españoles. Igual que llevar ropa. Tienes suerte que os domesticamos. De no ser por nosotros iríais en bolas cazando monos con flechas, y el mayor avance tecnológico que conoceríais sería untarlas con veneno de rana para matar antes vuestras presas.
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    How is it white? They're latinas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tannhauser View Post
    we really tune the same channel on this matter.
    For sure. I try to look at things from both the psychological/sociological and the genetic.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Not a rule. Your parents can be a losers but you could be raised by your grampas, ucnles, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    I don't think willingness is a lot more. Define willingness.
    If you are really unlucky on genetic lottery then you end up being sick since early childhood and sometimes without hope really.
    If you have decent genetics + good environment, then of course hard work can make a difference.
    Im not saying those having severe disadvantages, or handicaps which makes them less able to do something have the same chance as people who came from good environments with better capabilities, I was refering to average people who think less of themselves.
    Last edited by Benyzero; 03-04-2021 at 07:50 PM.



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    The losers, usually have loser children (if they have anyways)

    The dumbs, usually have dumb children.

    The pretty and intelligents, usually have pretty and intelligent children.

    It´s called genetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post
    1 - capitalism is the free exchange of surplus
    between individuals
    to their reciprocal benefit.

    it is not a dog-eat-dog competition.


    greatly improving my resources
    did not involve racing against some one
    that began with significant resources.

    it was a matter of moving far past my starting-point.


    2 - capital is constantly being produced:
    it is the difference between your production and your consumption.

    there is not a finite amount of capital
    that has been accumulated and monopolised
    in the hands of a few - leaving all future generations as beggars.
    This theory is fair enough for the phase of capitalism that was about 70 years ago (boomers). But such "hothouse" conditions could not have been created without a world war, since previous "ideal" capitalism ended with the Great Depression already BEFORE the war.
    In any case, for a relatively stable existence of the system, there must be two of them, competing with each other. Otherwise, the "priests" will degrade.
    The existing system cannot even be called capitalism - it is a transitional stage to corporate and banking fascism. I wonder what will defuse the situation now?

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