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    Really why?

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    Filipinos are not exactly a far step from Spaniards. They have their own casta system. Their culture is closest to nations like Peru.

    However, the Spaniards that came to the Philippines were most often from New Spain since Spain was so far away. A lot of these New Spaniards were mestizos. Even the word for grass in tagalog is 'zacate' a word from Nahuatl. In normal Spanish it would be hierba.




    The Philippine Revolution was a war between monarchist criollos (and their native allies) and nationalist criollos (and their native allies). José Rizal was strongly influenced by the nationalist criollos who lived in that country. Peninsulares and Insulares hated each other because Peninsulares was treating the archipelago like a cash cow, most Peninsulares were originally poor, then moving to the Philippines only to get rich by stealing from the natives before moving back to Spain.
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    They were more people In Mexico then the Philippines during the Spanish conquest yet millions of mexicans today have significants Spanish admixture from 45% 60% to 80%+

    A Hispanization of Mexico happened the Philippines was technically Mexico for 300 years.

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    He oido por ahi que muchos mexicanos emigraron para filipinas. Por eso es que en la actualidad tratan de imitar su cultura por el fuerte impacto que este tuvo

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    It is something alike, it is a truly multiracial society, with a elite composed by chinese inmigrants, and a tiny minority of mestizos and almost full-bloded spaniards (these last ones almost extinct since the japanese genocide in the Second World War). Then you have the majority of the society that are philippinos-austronesians, and there, in the bottom, the "negritos" in remote and isolate zones.

    The main differences are that the elite is composed by chinese people rather than spaniards (because Spain was very far away), and that chinese people didn´t miscegenate at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Filipinos are not exactly a far step from Spaniards. They have their own casta system. Their culture is closest to nations like Peru.

    However, the Spaniards that came to the Philippines were most often from New Spain since Spain was so far away. A lot of these New Spaniards were mestizos. Even the word for grass in tagalog is 'zacate' a word from Nahuatl. In normal Spanish it would be hierba.




    The Philippine Revolution was a war between monarchist criollos (and their native allies) and nationalist criollos (and their native allies). José Rizal was strongly influenced by the nationalist criollos who lived in that country. Peninsulares and Insulares hated each other because Peninsulares was treating the archipelago like a cash cow, most Peninsulares were originally poor, then moving to the Philippines only to get rich by stealing from the natives before moving back to Spain.
    The Philippines is not like Peru for the matter of fact that they for the most part don’t even speak Spanish and some areas of of the country are Muslim majority communities. Your average Filipino has less then 1 Spanish ancestry while for your average Peruvian it’s at least 30-25 percent. The favorite past time sport in the Philippines is basketball not soccer like Latin America and Peru.

    The elite of the Philippines is mainly composed of mixed Chinese and Spanish Filipinos while in Peru it’s mainly criollos not mestizos or amerindians who are more or less average joes in not just Peru but all of Latin America.

    In conclusion Peru inherited a lot of Hispanic customs but the Philippines didn’t due to being even farther
    from Spain then Latin America is.

    The Philippines is more like former areas of Portuguese control in India and Africa where some of they’re customs were kept before the new British administration changed everything, like Goa in India where Catholicism is practiced and some Portuguese colonial architecture remains but it’s fading away for modern day Indian culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth View Post
    The Philippines is not like Peru for the matter of fact that they for the most part don’t even speak Spanish and some areas of of the country are Muslim majority communities. Your average Filipino has less then 1 Spanish ancestry while for your average Peruvian it’s at least 30-25 percent. The favorite past time sport in the Philippines is basketball not soccer like Latin America and Peru.
    All of the Hispanic world including the Philippines is fully Spanish-derived, whoever says otherwise is retarded. I'm aware they are racially divergent and of lower average IQ but that doesn't affect their cultural foundations, Catholic faith and identity. The Maltese are ethnically Phoenician but we consider them European. Canarians are ethnically Berber, and Cypriots are Levantines genetically (reason why OWD brownies like Azbuzz/Corporate_Demolisher insist that Arabs are "Caucasoid/Caucasian" since it makes them closer to Southern Europeans lel).

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth View Post
    The elite of the Philippines is mainly composed of mixed Chinese and Spanish Filipinos while in Peru it’s mainly criollos not mestizos or amerindians who are more or less average joes in not just Peru but all of Latin America.
    Poor indo-mestizo is reaching out here.

    The colonisation of the Philippines was not carried out as intensively as in Latin America because of the difficult terrain. There are many islands with very complicated geographies, that is why the New Spaniards only settled in the main cities such as Manila or Cavite, so there was not much miscegenation or cultural exchange in all of Philippines beyond religion.

    But in Peru, millions still speak Quechua and Aymara. There were geographic barriers in Latin America too (Chile has the Andes to separate it from Argentina and the Atacama to separate it from Bolivia/Peru as an example) that allowed different smaller societies to prosper separately from one another.

    Lower class Spanish men race-mixed with local population and as Spanish women were scarce a mixed "criollo" middle class was created. In the case of Peru, this "criollo" class, was found in the coast. In the Andes although race-mixing happened they never had enough Spanish blood to be considered criollos and why they retained an Andean culture mixed with Spanish folk tradition. The Blacks are pretty much segregated to Chincha.

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    In conclusion Peru inherited a lot of Hispanic customs but the Philippines didn’t due to being even farther from Spain then Latin America is.
    Hispanic is a cultural group that includes people all the way from Mexico to the Philippines. There are even Hispanics in Africa (Equatorial Guinea and Western Sahara). Their cultures are heavily derived from Spain although with strong local indigenous or other foreign influences.

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    Before Spanish colonialism, Philippines was divided into several kingdoms and were not united. Filipinos in the mainland now are regionalistic, the Tagalogs dislike the Bisayas and Ilokanos, it's like a New Yorker disliking someone from California or Florida. The Hispanic heritage was and is the glue that ties them together.

    30% of Tagalog is from Spanish, some from Mexican Spanish of Nahuatl origin such as Zapote, Palenque, Chayote, Tiangguis. From historical records, 70% of Filipinos spoke Spanish as a 1st or 2nd language from the 1890's to 1930's, now it's less than 2%.

    American accounts during their occupation often said that they had to learn Spanish to speak with the locals and basically live there.

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    The Philippines is more like former areas of Portuguese control in India and Africa where some of they’re customs were kept before the new British administration changed everything, like Goa in India where Catholicism is practiced and some Portuguese colonial architecture remains but it’s fading away for modern day Indian culture.
    But they all have Portuguese ancestry. Goans who were born during the Portuguese rule are still eligible to obtain Portuguese citizenship even today. Portuguese-Goan cultural elements (Natal/Christmas, Kaju feni (originally from Brazil), Vindaloo (de vinha d'alhos from Portugal), Carnival, Sao Joao, Sorpotel (also from Portugal) etc. is still visible in their local customs.

    Loads of Indians from Goa have a Portuguese surname. The Portuguese had the weirdest ideas about colonisation. Granted they are/were a small country with a small population so they had troubles populating their massive territories. So one of their crypto-Jews comes up with the brilliant idea of mass race-mixing.

    The Portuguese males get like all the brown and black pussy they can handle as long as they keep fucking and breeding workers and soldiers for their Empire.

    This is how Brazil, Cape Verde, Goa, Macao and East Timor happened. Even some Portuguese posters here won't ree at miscegenation, they don't see anything wrong with race-mixing, simply because their former colonies are a filthy cesspool of miscegenation lel.

    The French tried similar things especially in New France, but I think that was less to do with population and more to do with being French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    It is something alike, it is a truly multiracial society, with a elite composed by chinese inmigrants, and a tiny minority of mestizos and almost full-bloded spaniards (these last ones almost extinct since the japanese genocide in the Second World War). Then you have the majority of the society that are philippinos-austronesians, and there, in the bottom, the "negritos" in remote and isolate zones.

    The main differences are that the elite is composed by chinese people rather than spaniards (because Spain was very far away), and that chinese people didn´t miscegenate at all.
    There was no Japanese genocide of Spanish in Manila. The Japanese were actually friendly toward the Spanish in the Philippines. It was just that when the Japanese were losing the war, they bombed Manila and massacred everyone they could- Filipinos, Spanish, and even Germans (their allies). The German Club in Manila was set on fire. But you can look at death records and only 200-300 Spanish died during the Battle of Manila.

    The Spanish elite are still in the Philippines to this day

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    All of the Hispanic world including the Philippines is fully Spanish-derived, whoever says otherwise is retarded. I'm aware they are racially divergent and of lower average IQ but that doesn't affect their cultural foundations, Catholic faith and identity. The Maltese are ethnically Phoenician but we consider them European. Canarians are ethnically Berber, and Cypriots are Levantines genetically (reason why OWD brownies like Azbuzz/Corporate_Demolisher insist that Arabs are "Caucasoid/Caucasian" since it makes them closer to Southern Europeans lel).



    Poor indo-mestizo is reaching out here.

    The colonisation of the Philippines was not carried out as intensively as in Latin America because of the difficult terrain. There are many islands with very complicated geographies, that is why the New Spaniards only settled in the main cities such as Manila or Cavite, so there was not much miscegenation or cultural exchange in all of Philippines beyond religion.

    But in Peru, millions still speak Quechua and Aymara. There were geographic barriers in Latin America too (Chile has the Andes to separate it from Argentina and the Atacama to separate it from Bolivia/Peru as an example) that allowed different smaller societies to prosper separately from one another.

    Lower class Spanish men race-mixed with local population and as Spanish women were scarce a mixed "criollo" middle class was created. In the case of Peru, this "criollo" class, was found in the coast. In the Andes although race-mixing happened they never had enough Spanish blood to be considered criollos and why they retained an Andean culture mixed with Spanish folk tradition. The Blacks are pretty much segregated to Chincha.



    Hispanic is a cultural group that includes people all the way from Mexico to the Philippines. There are even Hispanics in Africa (Equatorial Guinea and Western Sahara). Their cultures are heavily derived from Spain although with strong local indigenous or other foreign influences.

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    Before Spanish colonialism, Philippines was divided into several kingdoms and were not united. Filipinos in the mainland now are regionalistic, the Tagalogs dislike the Bisayas and Ilokanos, it's like a New Yorker disliking someone from California or Florida. The Hispanic heritage was and is the glue that ties them together.

    30% of Tagalog is from Spanish, some from Mexican Spanish of Nahuatl origin such as Zapote, Palenque, Chayote, Tiangguis. From historical records, 70% of Filipinos spoke Spanish as a 1st or 2nd language from the 1890's to 1930's, now it's less than 2%.

    American accounts during their occupation often said that they had to learn Spanish to speak with the locals and basically live there.

    Spoiler!




    But they all have Portuguese ancestry. Goans who were born during the Portuguese rule are still eligible to obtain Portuguese citizenship even today. Portuguese-Goan cultural elements (Natal/Christmas, Kaju feni (originally from Brazil), Vindaloo (de vinha d'alhos from Portugal), Carnival, Sao Joao, Sorpotel (also from Portugal) etc. is still visible in their local customs.

    Loads of Indians from Goa have a Portuguese surname. The Portuguese had the weirdest ideas about colonisation. Granted they are/were a small country with a small population so they had troubles populating their massive territories. So one of their crypto-Jews comes up with the brilliant idea of mass race-mixing.

    The Portuguese males get like all the brown and black pussy they can handle as long as they keep fucking and breeding workers and soldiers for their Empire.

    This is how Brazil, Cape Verde, Goa, Macao and East Timor happened. Even some Portuguese posters here won't ree at miscegenation, they don't see anything wrong with race-mixing, simply because their former colonies are a filthy cesspool of miscegenation lel.

    The French tried similar things especially in New France, but I think that was less to do with population and more to do with being French.
    Most Filipinos have Spanish surnames too, but that doesn't necessarily mean Spanish ancestry. Like most Goans are just Indians who converted to Catholicism and changed their surnames to Portuguese. Also, Filipinos are eligible for Spanish citizenship after just 2 years of living in Spain. The same as all other former Spanish colonies. Everyone else has to wait 10 years

    Also, the Philippines has plenty of Spanish/Latino traditions, musical influence, and especially food. It's more apparent in the rural areas and among the older generations. Hispanic influence is fading in urban areas and among younger people. Hispanic culture is just not see as cool anymore compared to American and Korean culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasien View Post
    Really why?

    Our ancestors were animist before the Catholic missionaries arrived. Most of the wars are between the Spaniards/Mexicans (New Spain) versus against the Southern Muslims and Chinese

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