Would America have been better off if we had never brought over the Blacks from Africa?

[Radimir]

Then it would mean no Michael Jackson!! I can't imagine a world without his music.

[Tooting Carmen]

So much of the US economy depended on slave labour. And it is very rich for WNs, past and present, to say "we brought you here against your will, we no longer need you, now get lost and go to some African country you probably haven't heard of and quite likely your ancestors didn't even come from there".

[Ranger0075]

They did have slaves in the Northern states. They had them in New England, New York, etc. It isn't true that only the South had slaves. Most Southerners were not slave owners. The South also had a lot of freed Negroes .

Musically, the US would still have country music and it's many forms which is a great export to many parts of the world. The blacks only had hip hop which is not very appealing.

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My real name is due an afro american singer. I am tired to teach people how to write it. It would even change my life someway too.

[Andullero]

So much of the US economy depended on slave labour. And it is very rich for WNs, past and present, to say "we brought you here against your will, we no longer need you, now get lost and go to some African country you probably haven't heard of and quite likely your ancestors didn't even come from there".

The British practically gave up the North early in the revolutionary war for the sake of keeping the South and the Caribbean plantation holdings. That should tell you all you need to know.

[Universe]

America was built on slavery, so no. Who would work on the cotton fields for free up until the 19th century? I would profit a lot with that...

USA would have been a wealthy country with or without slavery like Canada or Australia. Within USA prior to civil war northern states had better economy than southern ones.

[Tooting Carmen]

The British practically gave up the North early in the revolutionary war for the sake of keeping the South and the Caribbean plantation holdings. That should tell you all you need to know.

True. Also, when people compare either the IQ levels or general academic and economic achievement of Aframs with Jews, East Asians, South Asians or even recent immigrants to the US from countries like Ethiopia and Nigeria, they overlook that (a) there is a difference between voluntary migrants, who by their very nature usually have to have, if not high levels of intelligence, then at least high levels of enterprise, versus involuntary migrants, who were captured and enslaved against their will and (b) in any event, even long after the abolition of slavery, no other ethnic groups had to endure the kinds of personal, legal and economic restrictions Aframs did in much of the USA, however much there may have been periodic outbursts of hatred and persecution.

[Universe]

True. Also, when people compare either the IQ levels or general academic and economic achievement of Aframs with Jews, East Asians, South Asians or even recent immigrants to the US from countries like Ethiopia and Nigeria, they overlook that (a) there is a difference between voluntary migrants, who by their very nature usually have to have, if not high levels of intelligence, then at least high levels of enterprise, versus involuntary migrants, who were captured and enslaved against their will and (b) in any event, even long after the abolition of slavery, no other ethnic groups had to endure the kinds of personal, legal and economic restrictions Aframs did in much of the USA, however much there may have been periodic outbursts of hatred and persecution.

Neither did whites ask to be born in USA and to share a country with Blacks.

[Tooting Carmen]

Neither did whites ask to be born in USA and to share a country with Blacks.

Obviously not now, but some White Americans' ancestors did forcibly bring Blacks over, so what's your point? And nor did the Blacks in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Botswana and Namibia ask to share their countries with Whites.

[Ranger0075]

Both left wingers and right wingers agree slavery was a mistake, I've never seen someone who still support it. It's quite unhealthy to discuss 'if' issues imo.

Now banning aframs to the Caribbeans or Africa seems irrelevant too, they would go back to US as immigrants and would claim they've american ancestors, any Biden would make them american citizens again quite easily.

[Universe]

Obviously not now, but some White Americans' ancestors did forcibly bring Blacks over, so what's your point? And nor did the Blacks in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Botswana and Namibia ask to share their countries with Whites.

My point is White-Black cohabitation wasn't a choice of Whites, the whites of USA just happened to be born there by chance, same with blacks. Many of them don't even have slavery era ancestors and the ones who do have ancestors from that era don't necessarily have ancestors who owned slaves.
Blaming whites for something their ancestors did doesn't make sense. Some people say that does make sense because "they are the ones who benefit from crimes of their ancestors" or something along those lines, but that's not true.

Aframs are a population that use more government assistance than taxes they pay (unlike White and Asian Americans) and that has been like that for many decades probably.
As for the second part, Zimbwabwean president in recent years actually invited thousands of white farmers back after they were expelled 20 years ago, but I see what you mean.

Btw, you gave thumbs up to Cernunos and Linebacker. The first one said no to the question in OP, the second one implied "blacks are a negative influence and whites deserve it" (he compared them to balkanites who defeated Ottoman Empire). So which stance do you take? Blacks are good or bad for USA?