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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeduard View Post
    Sārbă derives from Sărbătoare (celebration).

    Sărbătoare = From serba (variant sărba) or from Vulgar Latin root *servatoria, from Latin servō
    Right, and the ex-Serbs (Romanians) call Serbs Sarba, the people who celebrate? This Latin SerVo originates from Greeks who interchanged the B for V. SerB as SerV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Unlikely, because we also have it here and there aren't any Serb communities like in Romania.
    Romanians are SERBS who were Romanianised. Alba Iulia was called………..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Serbs were known as Vlachs for centuries, and Bulgarians/Macedonians as Serbs. Cool story!

    Vlachs were one of several social castes in medieval Serbia, not Romance speaking people.
    Romance speaking Balkanites never call themselves Vlachs. Social vlachs of medieval Serbia were aware of their vlach caste (but also they are ethnic Serbs), like dentists call themselves dentists.
    Even with intense Romanianisation of Dacia, Serbian words are still in used in Romania. Worse for them, their genetics is identical to Serbs of Serbia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Sārba is a dance connected with Balkans, but don't originate from Serbs. The name Serb itself was in the past just an umbrella term for every orthodox Balkan Slav (Macedonian, Bulgarian, Serb, Montenegrin).
    This explanation doesn't make sense. Romanians and Bulgarians lived close to each other since the 7th century, and came in contact with Serbs only in the 13th century, so I don't believe Romanians didn't have a name for the Bulgarians.

    Montenegrin and Macedonian as ethnic designations are a thing of the early 20th century.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeduard View Post
    Sārbă derives from Sărbătoare (celebration).

    Sărbătoare = From serba (variant sărba) or from Vulgar Latin root *servatoria, from Latin servō
    this makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Right, and the ex-Serbs (Romanians) call Serbs Sarba, the people who celebrate? This Latin SerVo originates from Greeks who interchanged the B for V. SerB as SerV.
    Servo in Latin means Barracks/Fort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeduard View Post
    Sārbă derives from Sărbătoare (celebration).

    Sărbătoare = From serba (variant sărba) or from Vulgar Latin root *servatoria, from Latin servō
    are there any other Latin words in Romanian with a V\B and L\R sound shift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Romanians are SERBS who were Romanianised. Alba Iulia was called………..?
    Meds, quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Romanians are SERBS who were Romanianised. Alba Iulia was called………..?
    Serba Serbia maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    Serba Serbia maybe?
    Not quite, but close

    Alba Iulia was called Bălgrad (White Fortress), but the name was not given by Serbs but Bulgarians who formed the military leadership of the Vlachs in that region at that time (9 to 11th century).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    This explanation doesn't make sense. Romanians and Bulgarians lived close to each other since the 7th century, and came in contact with Serbs only in the 13th century, so I don't believe Romanians didn't have a name for the Bulgarians.

    Montenegrin and Macedonian as ethnic designations are a thing of the early 20th century.



    this makes sense.
    Family names with the ethnic designation "Bulgar", "Bulgaru", "Bulgari", "Bolgar", "Bolgari", "Bulgarean(u)" are significantly less common than those that point at Serbs like "Sīrbu", "Sīrboiu", "Sīrbulescu", "Sīrbuleț".

    Sīrbu alone is the 11th most common surname in Moldova and 131st most common in Romania, according to Forebears. The most popular variation for Bulgarian, Bulgaru, is on the 322nd place in Moldova and 697 in Romania.

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