Who looks more alike: French and Danes or Greeks and Ukrainians?

[Russki]

Like everywhere. Emigrants are normally from the poorest parts of the country which are often at the same time the darkest.
But I mean that the general impression people here have about ethnic groups are random photos, famous people or what they have observed travelling, which gives an idea of a certain sector of the population but not as a whole. You're seeing the most helpless Ukrainians and if you go to any working class neighbourhood of mainland Greece, you will probably also think that Greeks are darker than you originally thought.

Poor Ukrainians are not darker than rich Ukrainians. Arguably even lighter because there are no Jews among their poorer.

Ukrainians are as light/dark as those millions of refugees.


P.S. I think the biggest problem of Ukrainians is their brachycephaly, short faces and small foreheads, not their pigmentation.

These people are anti-Nordic in their metrical nature, regardless of complexion.

[Russki]

French and Danes.

[Lemon Kush]

I will give the slight edge to French and danes

[Universe]

Like everywhere. Emigrants are normally from the poorest parts of the country which are often at the same time the darkest.
But I mean that the general impression people here have about ethnic groups are random photos, famous people or what they have observed travelling, which gives an idea of a certain sector of the population but not as a whole. You're seeing the most helpless Ukrainians and if you go to any working class neighbourhood of mainland Greece, you will probably also think that Greeks are darker than you originally thought.

In Italy poorer regions are darker. Maybe in Spain as well, I'm not sure. In other European countries that isn't the case though. Southeastern France is wealthier than other parts of France and Southern Germany is wealthier than the North. In Netherlands the southern part is wealthier too. In Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Serbia etc poor people are darker but only because those countries have large gypsy populations and gypsies are almost exclusively poor. You won't find pigmentation differences between wealthy and poor ethnic Hungarians.

[Fruslay]

In Italy poorer regions are darker. Maybe in Spain as well, I'm not sure. In other European countries that isn't the case though. Southeastern France is wealthier than other parts of France and Southern Germany is wealthier than the North. In Netherlands the southern part is wealthier too. In Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Serbia etc poor people are darker but only because those countries have large gypsy populations and gypsies are almost exclusively poor. You won't find pigmentation differences between wealthy and poor ethnic Hungarians.

In Spain these pigmentation differences by class exist and are large. I assumed in all of Europe was the same but this phenomenon must be restricted to southern Europe.

[Tooting Carmen]

In Spain these pigmentation differences by class exist and are large. I assumed in all of Europe was the same but this phenomenon must be restricted to southern Europe.

There is perhaps some correlation, but it is not like upper-class Spaniards resemble Danes and working-class Spaniards resemble Iraqis.

[Oliver109]

There is perhaps some correlation, but it is not like upper-class Spaniards resemble Danes and working-class Spaniards resemble Iraqis.

Ha ha, well no though certainly i notice that ordinary Spaniards have more Berid types, more gracile meds while richer, posher looking Spaniards often tend towards atlanto meds, atlantids, , some subnordics occasionally and the rare Nordics though still very uncommon. I notice in Spain that people who are more in the prolateriat like airport workers, bus drivers, street cleaners tend towards the more Med looks in general.

[Tooting Carmen]

Ha ha, well no though certainly i notice that ordinary Spaniards have more Berid types, more gracile meds while richer, posher looking Spaniards often tend towards atlanto meds, atlantids, , some subnordics occasionally and the rare Nordics though still very uncommon. I notice in Spain that people who are more in the prolateriat like airport workers, bus drivers, street cleaners tend towards the more Med looks in general.

I'm not so sure. It is not too rare to find even rich and/or prominent Spaniards like Antonio Hernando Vera and Alex Cruz:

[Oliver109]

I'm not so sure. It is not too rare to find even rich and/or prominent Spaniards like Antonio Hernando Vera and Alex Cruz:

Indeed, though i would wager that upper class Spaniards do have slightly more nordic influence than run of the mill Spaniards, i think Spain is a country that is quite polarised by class like Britain, maybe nearly as much as Britain.

[Tooting Carmen]

Returning to topic: the amount of overlap in both instances I'd estimate to be around 20-25%. After all, even Romanians are collectively easy to tell apart from Ukrainians, let alone Greeks. Similarly, even the English are collectively easy to tell apart from Danes, let alone the French.