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    east meds mostly in greece, turkey and levant. most similar phenotype to east med is pontid imo but with some differences and east meds generally dolicephalic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lustermoo View Post
    I think it’s the former moreso because Saharid is a brown skinned caucasoid type of North Africa

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    I see Saharid as the more typical variety of Transmediterranid in N. Africa which usually has mild Arabid or Ethiopid influence and therefore a slightly swarthier type than the conventional Transmediterranid. Likewise Libyid would be the intermediate of Arabid and Transmed. On the other hand East Med could be a slightly more robust and dolichocephalic variety due to iranid, or higher atlanto-mediterranid influence. But all would fall under the Trans Mediterranid category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by placebo View Post
    east meds mostly in greece, turkey and levant. most similar phenotype to east med is pontid imo but with some differences and east meds generally dolicephalic.
    Pontid is far more different imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LorenzoSpitaleri View Post
    Pontid is far more different imo.
    How?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    How?
    Taller, different cranial index as you said, face isn't as oval-shaped and the jaw area is a bit more robust. By pictures of the phenotypes next to eachother they may look similar because in the end both are mediterranid types but a Pontid person will always be distinct from an east-transmed, and other mediterranids in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kivan View Post
    "Trans-Med" is an intermediate between Atlanto and Gracile-Med, so nope.
    That is just a way to describe the general appearance, being neither as robust nor soft, tall or short as the other med types, doesn't necessarily have to be a mix of the two. And as I mentioned the Transmediterranid was identified in North Africa initially as what it was considered to be an East Mediterranid.

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    I am inclined to believe a good amount of the North Africans classified as Transmediterranid are often Libyids instead. At least that is the impression I have.

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    I think Transmed is just more gracile and alpine influenced and East Med is a bit more Dinaric and chiseled face wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LorenzoSpitaleri View Post
    I am inclined to believe a good amount of the North Africans classified as Transmediterranid are often Libyids instead. At least that is the impression I have.
    I wouldn't call the majority of any North African countries are trans med. Probably just gracile semitic types/similar types. A lot of people don't look to deep when classifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    I wouldn't call the majority of any North African countries are trans med. Probably just gracile semitic types/similar types. A lot of people don't look to deep when classifying.
    Yep, Orientalid, Berberid , Saharid, it’s usually just this


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