Why did the Germans become the Nazis in WWII instead of the British?

[Swarthy_Syndicate]

Excluding the 15 years or so of Hitler’s rule, no country’s past is more atrocious or evil-ridden than that of the British. Colonizing continents, enslaving millions, and looting anything they could get their hands on. Germans have done very little of any of this. Even during World War II, their ambitions were clear and there was no trickery with them. Their goal was genocide and they did not hide it.

I find it strange how Germans developed this notion of racial superiority, rather than the British? Is English not the lingua franca of the WORLD at this point? To this day German is still only spoken mostly by its own ethnic blood. English is spoken almost everywhere with decent publicity. Germans seem much less imperialist than the Anglos, yet it somehow crossed their mind to become Nazis, but that same spark never happened with the English... they were so much more powerful than the Germans... and yet, they went against Hitler in the end when it came to determining Germanic superiority.

This probably sounds extremely weird... but would Nazi Britain have made more sense?

[Smitty]

The English have actually been very supremacist historically, as far as I know. I can think of three reasons why that never developed into an ideology akin to Nazism. One, they obviously never dealt with the kind of crisis and demoralization that Germany underwent just prior to and during Hitler's rise. Two, until recently there haven't been any significant minorities in England to stir up the kind of racism that had been building in Germany for 1,000 years. Three, it is my opinion that the English are far more individualist than the Germans and therefore less prone to mass movements and authoritarian control.

[Mortimer]

Yes it is weird, I think racial supremacy ideas, anti-miscgenation laws, racial laws etc. and all that stuff was much more common for the english speaking world then for the german speaking world. But I think the difference is that nazism is socialist that means collectivist and with a authoritarian Leader, Hitler. English dont believe so much in that. They have strong parliamantery, capitalist, and liberal tradition, despite being racist.

[Mortimer]

Also Hitler was not really fully racist, he only wanted to kill Jews and Gypsies. The English didnt had a problem with the jews, because they have similar mentalities and their elites are mixed with jews, always were but now it is obvious like Trumps family, Bidens family, even the Rothshilds who are some kind of jewish-english mix and big bosses. Hitler didnt liked Jews, that was his problem with the Anglos.

[Smitty]

Also Hitler was not really fully racist, he only wanted to kill Jews and Gypsies. The English didnt had a problem with the jews, because they have similar mentalities and their elites are mixed with jews, always were but now it is obvious like Trumps family, Bidens family, even the Rothshilds who are some kind of jewish-english mix and big bosses. Hitler didnt liked Jews, that was his problem with the Anglos.

Hitler was fully racist. There just weren't any other minorities in Europe besides Jews and gypsies for him to have a problem with.

[Mortimer]

Hitler was fully racist. There just weren't any other minorities in Europe besides Jews and gypsies for him to have a problem with.

He had many brown, yellow and black allies though and there were some blacks in europe, while they faced some discrimination they were never send to concentration camps or to be killed or anything. They were even in Hitler Jugend, and I read accounts how some blacks described their experiences in Hitler Jugend, that they were the odd kid etc. but a jew or gypsy was not even in Hitler Jugend but in concentration camp.

[Smitty]

He had many brown, yellow and black allies though and there were some blacks in europe, while they faced some discrimination they were never send to concentration camps or to be killed or anything. They were even in Hitler Jugend, and I read accounts how some blacks described their experiences in Hitler Jugend, that they were the odd kid etc. but a jew or gypsy was not even in Hitler Jugend but in concentration camp.

I hadn't heard of blacks in Germany. Weird. But it was precisely their rarity that exempted them, I would say. As for non-European allies, that's again different because they were in their own countries. It would have been truly ridiculous to embark on an extermination program throughout the whole world.

Edit: Also, he had the Rhineland Bastards sterilized, according to Wikipedia. That's not nothing.

[Mortimer]

I hadn't heard of blacks in Germany. Weird. But it was precisely their rarity that exempted them, I would say. As for non-European allies, that's again different because they were in their own countries. It would have been truly ridiculous to embark on an extermination program throughout the whole world.

You might be right, but Hitler had also different world view on races other then jews or gypsies in the sense that he considered them noble, or fully human not subhuman or sometimes even honorary aryans (japanese, amerindians etc.)

[Mortimer]

Edit: Also, he had the Rhineland Bastards sterilized, according to Wikipedia. That's not nothing.

He did considered blacks a monkey like yes. But many other non-white races he considered noble, asians, amerindians, arabs (if you count them as nonwhite), he considered iranians as aryans (i dont know if they are non-white though)

[Smitty]

He did considered blacks a monkey like yes. But many other non-white races he considered noble, asians, amerindians, arabs (if you count them as nonwhite), he considered iranians as aryans (i dont know if they are non-white though)

That is true. I haven't read up much on that.