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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    Considering that British Bell Beakers and Celts (were they one and the same?) were close to Germanics and most of Iron Age southern Europe was similar to Paleo-Balkanites, this model should be accurate even for many Europeans outside of the Balkans. Perhaps even for Anatolian Turks and some Levantines.
    I was right Example:

    Target: Italian_Sicily
    Distance: 0.3495% / 0.34945317
    44.7 Paleo_Balkan
    37.4 Eastern_Mediterranean
    14.5 Germanic
    3.4 Slavic

    Some food for thought for Sikeliot and those are of a like mind to him.

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    Target: Thracian(balkan_turk)
    Distance: 3.1771% / 3.17712407 | ADC: 0.25x
    41.1 Paleo_Balkan
    25.0 Eastern_Mediterranean
    13.1 Turkic
    11.0 Germanic
    9.8 Slavic

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    Distance to: Vrazijadivizija
    11.87401364 Slavic:Ukraine_Lutsk_Medieval_VK541
    12.02829581 Slavic:Ukraine_Chernigov_VikingAge_VK542
    13.57961708 Slavic:Viking_Denmark_Jutland_VK340
    13.69127825 Slavic:Viking_Russia_Gnezdovo_VK272
    14.52621423 Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_
    15.17938405 Slavic:Viking_Denmark_Langeland_VK287
    15.47692153 Slavic:Viking_Sweden_Gotland_VK454
    19.60396388 Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
    21.12902506 Slavic:Viking_Russia_Pskov_VK159
    21.37051941 Slavic:Viking_Poland_Cedynia_VK212
    24.94819232 Paleo_Balkan:MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
    27.74614568 Paleo_Balkan:I4332_Croatia_MBA_3516_ybp
    27.90323816 Paleo_Balkan:I3313_Croatia_Early_IA_2733_ybp
    28.29843635 Paleo_Balkan:I4331_Croatia_MBA_3526_ybp
    29.13946122 Germanic:SZ12_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
    31.48641612 Germanic:RISE174_Sweden_IA.SG_1431_ybp
    32.41059703 Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp
    33.52878017 Germanic:SZ15_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
    33.63712384 Germanic:Alh1_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1500_ybp
    36.01224097 Germanic:ADA119_Slovakia_Poprad_1600_R_U106_U4b3_3 75_AD_2_
    38.26114086 Paleo_Balkan:I5769_Bulgaria_IA_2600_ybp
    38.40626251 Turkic:ADA66_Kyrgyzstan_TianShanHun.SG_1447_ybp
    39.33579032 Turkic:ADA65_Kyrgyzstan_TianShanHun.SG_1511_ybp
    39.46767411 Turkic:ADA101_Kyrgyzstan_TianShanHun.SG_1716_ybp
    40.90103422 Turkic:ADA385_Kyrgyzstan_TianShanHun.SG_1467_ybp


    Target: Vrazijadivizija
    Distance: 2.8359% / 2.83588968 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.5 Slavic
    22.5 Paleo_Balkan

    Distance to: Vrazijadivizija
    2.51620818 31.60% Paleo_Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp + 68.40% Slavic:Viking_Russia_Pskov_VK159
    3.66043131 22.40% Paleo_Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp + 77.60% Slavic:Viking_Denmark_Jutland_VK340
    4.11847025 24.40% Paleo_Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp + 75.60% Slavic:Viking_Denmark_Langeland_VK287
    4.20092474 23.40% Paleo_Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp + 76.60% Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_
    4.66029248 22.20% Paleo_Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp + 77.80% Slavic:Viking_Russia_Gnezdovo_VK272
    4.83395160 29.60% Paleo_Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp + 70.40% Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_

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    Target: Kökény
    Distance: 0.8963% / 0.89625347
    37.5 Germanic
    25.0 Paleo_Balkan
    19.6 Slavic
    10.2 Turkic
    7.7 Eastern_Mediterranean

    Target: Dad
    Distance: 2.3646% / 2.36455863
    35.9 Slavic
    34.2 Paleo_Balkan
    13.4 Germanic
    8.5 Turkic
    8.0 Eastern_Mediterranean

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    Target: BaiNed
    Distance: 1.7512% / 1.75117203
    46.3 Paleo_Balkan
    29.3 Slavic
    13.8 Germanic
    10.6 Eastern_Mediterranean

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    If any Italians are reading this and want to try it out, you should replace the Paleo-Balkan referrences with this:

    Italic:R473_Civitavecchia_Etruscan._Iron_Age,33.38 ,12.03,31.63,0.41,18.38,3.34,0.34,0.42,0.06,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00
    Italic:R474b_Civitavecchia_Etruscan._Iron_Age,35.6 7,12.22,25.57,5.16,17.48,1.51,0.00,0.00,1.10,0.59, 0.00,0.71,0.00
    Italic:R475b_Civitavecchia_Etruscan._Iron_Age,21.5 0,7.31,32.84,0.00,26.37,6.15,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .10,4.30,1.44
    Italic:R435b_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Republic,40.39,14.47 ,27.71,1.84,12.25,1.50,0.75,0.00,0.53,0.49,0.00,0. 00,0.06
    Italic:R1_Abruzzo_Teramo_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy,28. 96,13.59,21.58,9.88,19.66,3.43,0.00,0.00,1.43,0.99 ,0.48,0.00,0.00
    Italic:R1015_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Villanovan,34.16, 9.13,33.08,0.00,20.98,1.79,0.00,0.27,0.00,0.59,0.0 0,0.00,0.00
    Italic:R1016_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Latini,35.91,7.69 ,33.00,1.06,20.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.52,0.00,0. 00,0.00
    Italic:R1021_Lazio_Frosinone_Iron_Age_Latini,37.21 ,9.04,30.58,2.18,18.82,1.44,0.00,0.04,0.00,0.00,0. 70,0.00,0.00
    Italic:R851_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Latini,34.22,14.60 ,34.26,1.01,15.44,0.30,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00

    The distances are good either way, though I feel using actual Italic samples obviously gives a more accurate picture.

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    Target: Mr.G
    Distance: 51.4333% / 0.51433288
    56.8 Germanic
    19.2 Slavic
    15.0 Paleo_Balkan
    5.8 Eastern_Mediterranean
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    I added G25 coordinates in case you want to try that out too and see how they compare. Can't help you with that myself though, since I haven't bought G25.

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    Only half Balkan but the fit is still good

    Target: DacoCeltic
    Distance: 1.6006% / 1.60061132
    59.2 Germanic
    34.2 Paleo_Balkan
    6.6 Eastern_Mediterranean

    Non Agg

    Target: DacoCeltic
    Distance: 1.6006% / 1.60061132
    50.5 Germanic:SZ12_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
    34.2 Paleo_Balkan:I4331_Croatia_MBA_3526_ybp
    8.6 Germanic:SZ15_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
    4.8 Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocian
    1.8 Eastern_Mediterranean:R1551_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imper ial
    0.1 Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp

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    Target: BaiNed
    Distance: 1.6891% / 1.68908613
    33.7 Slavic
    22.1 Italic
    21.3 Eastern_Mediterranean
    12.7 Paleo_Balkan
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