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Thread: Mohamed can be a prophet for Christians, for Lutheran theologian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Amin

    Hanbali seems to follow Islam very accuartely
    I do not really know about that. Hanbalis follow the hadiths very thoroughly and i do not agree with that. These hadiths are the prophets teachings and basically what he transmitted orally. The guy who recollected Sahih bukhari (the main hadiths books for the sunnah) wrote his book 200 years after the prophets death,how can we be sure that these oral teachings have been transmitted accurately after all this time?

    Also they do not tolerate to debate about basically anything their doctrine teaches

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfgh676 View Post
    I do not really know about that. Hanbalis follow the hadiths very thoroughly and i do not agree with that. These hadiths are the prophets teachings and basically what he transmitted orally. The guy who recollected Sahih bukhari (the main hadiths books for the sunnah) wrote his book 200 years after the prophets death,how can we be sure that these oral teachings have been transmitted accurately after all this time?

    Also they do not tolerate to debate about basically anything their doctrine teaches
    They make sense and do not contradict. Many of the brightest scholars did alot of work to see if sunnahs are authentic or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    Actually , Jakob Wirén is correct .. Prophet Muhammed (SAWS) was sent to all people and religions not just for Arabs.

    I'm Arab but an Indian muslim or African muslim or European muslim can be better than me .. Islam is not for Arabs Islam is for all ethnic groups.
    A person can be good and reputable regardless of ethnicity and religion, I generally prefer honorable people. I know Russians for example, who probably have a totally different culture but we have many values which we share together.

    I just wanted to clarify that this guy is just making a comment for himself, this is not representative what Muslims generally think about Christians. Of course we can say he is the prophet of all, i think this thread has another intention than whether this statement is true or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Nationalism and racism is a great fitna, I tried to explain it to Gecko.

    Many Turks got indoctrinated by atashirk
    I am definitely not a racist, i always try to be out of this trash. Also if someone is asking me which religion i am following i always answer Elhamdulillah I am a moslem. But my ancestry is also very important. Everyone has just one mother and father like everyone has just one history. And my people experienced that the great ummah is not willing showing us the same devotion like Turks always evinced for them. On the other hand, Atatürk was ready for this devotion. I am a Muslim and honour Atatürk, like many other personalities of my past, because i could have any other religion but i only have one history.

    Besides of that I am not supporting the OWD views of TA-Turks, i am an Almanci, we are different.

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    Monotheistic globalization is very interesting fuckery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    If Lutheran/Atheist/Feminized Sweden would convert to Islam it would be a improvement on all fronts.
    I don't think it's about converting to Islam but accepting Islam in a post-modern concept that all religions are the same.

    People can't easily accept different people and since they can't become like us, we will become something closer to them.

    Grand fuckery that it is racist in its core since we can't accept other people for what they are and tell them to stay in their countries for our incompatibilities. We should become one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faklon View Post
    I don't think it's about converting to Islam but accepting Islam in a post-modern concept that all religions are the same.

    People can't easily accept different people and since they can't become like us, we will become something closer to them.

    Grand fuckery that it is racist in its core since we can't accept other people for what they are and tell them to stay in their countries for our incompatibilities. We should become one.
    If the essence of the European people is hedonism and we aim for the pre Christian/Abrahamic status, I consinder every ideology/philosophy/religion opposing this in my opinion savage/pagan and by that most satanic spirits and tendencies as good. Call it a archaic/reactionary force, I share a mindset just factually more with an arab muslim immigrant than a lgbtq liberal ethnic German bastard, ofc a reactionary traditionalist german Catholic would be the one I share the most with but they are more rare than a girl in carlifornia that not had a gangbang already with 20.

    The intentions of this Lutheran bastards are clear, I see it the way you do. But I also know that Islam will not play their game and skullfuck such hedonists and id lie if I say I dont look forward to this day.

    A day where a Transkid gets a tokat and gets drilled to be a man.
    A day where a Cardi B can fuck off and will no longer indoctrinate girls with her WAP stuff.

    Generally I hope I will witness the day we destruct the liberal or whatever you call it hegemony, the best thing the delusional worldview of the liberals will be their own downfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    What madhhab you follow akhi
    Hanafi, it's part of our Ottoman tradition
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    Hanafi, it's part of our Ottoman tradition
    not a convincing aqida from what I read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    If the essence of the European people is hedonism and we aim for the pre Christian/Abrahamic status, I consinder every ideology/philosophy/religion opposing this in my opinion savage/pagan and by that most satanic spirits and tendencies as good. Call it a archaic/reactionary force, I share a mindset just factually more with an arab muslim immigrant than a lgbtq liberal ethnic German bastard, ofc a reactionary traditionalist german Catholic would be the one I share the most with but they are more rare than a girl in carlifornia that not had a gangbang already with 20.

    The intentions of this Lutheran bastards are clear, I see it the way you do. But I also know that Islam will not play their game and skullfuck such hedonists and id lie if I say I dont look forward to this day.

    A day where a Transkid gets a tokat and gets drilled to be a man.
    A day where a Cardi B can fuck off and will no longer indoctrinate girls with her WAP stuff.

    Generally I hope I will witness the day we destruct the liberal or whatever you call it hegemony, the best thing the delusional worldview of the liberals will be their own downfall.
    Any serious conservative, someone who believes in social pillars of law, order, family, spirituality, tradition, respect of elders, specific gender roles and complementarity, honour, strong leadership, authority, in short someone with a right wing ethos, is logically and morally obligated to respect Islam, because Islam is precisely the embodiment of these values.

    The problem is at an ethno-cultural level, that Islam is carried by extra Europeans, and this creates anxiety of ethno-cultural replacement in Western societies. The lack of integration due to poor education and ethno-cultural gap add another layer of mutual hate, misunderstanding and misconception about Islam, but it's like throwing the baby with the bath water, as we say in French. Let's not forget the acculturation of so-called Muslim youth who are being Americanized from the bottom, by following the American trashy ghetto lifestyle.

    What I mean, is that the social and multicultural tensions in postmodern Western societies, should not be focused on Islam by right-wingers, in order to please their Jewish masters, but rather on stoping immigration, preparing remigration, focusing on rebirth of a strong indigenous ethno-cultural-spiritual national identity, removing leftist liberal degeneracy and progressivism. For instance, social tensions are worse in the US among different ethnic groups, who are all mostly non-Muslims (Latino, Blacks, Asians).

    And as paradoxal and provocative as it sounds, but I know Teutone that you know that, it's that Islam can actually benefit the European people as a way to regenerate and revitalize their true spirit and free themselves from the liberal leftist poison that has been injected by the Judeo-Masonic oligarchy.
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