Mohamed can be a prophet for Christians, for Lutheran theologian

[Teutone]

which state?

West Germany and vallahi I am honest.

[Egyptian]

West Germany and vallahi I am honest.

Well then I invite you to Egypt if you want .. I will host you in my apartment and send you to some scholars to teach you about Islam. I will even pay for your ticket if you want.

[Östsvensk]

Why do I never hear you talking about the biggest enemy of all Religions?
Who did more damage to christianity, Islam or reformation/secularization/liberalism? The answer is clear but your actions/focus show me you fight on the front that is not righteous.

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I rarely talk about issues of religion on this board, because frankly, religious threads do not pop up often.

The rise of Islam in the West is possibly God giving judgment for the ongoing immorality. If the church cannot purify itself, we will lose. I guess that means Christianity is out then.

Habakkuk 1

1 The burden which Habakkuk the prophet did see.

2 O Lord, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save!

3 Why dost thou shew me iniquity, and cause me to behold grievance? for spoiling and violence are before me: and there are that raise up strife and contention.

4 Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth.

5 Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvelously: for I will work a work in your days which ye will not believe, though it be told you.

6 For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not their's.

7 They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.

8 Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat.

9 They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand.

10 And they shall scoff at the kings, and the princes shall be a scorn unto them: they shall deride every strong hold; for they shall heap dust, and take it.

11 Then shall his mind change, and he shall pass over, and offend, imputing this his power unto his god.

12 Art thou not from everlasting, O Lord my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O Lord, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.

13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

14 And makest men as the fishes of the sea, as the creeping things, that have no ruler over them?

15 They take up all of them with the angle, they catch them in their net, and gather them in their drag: therefore they rejoice and are glad.

16 Therefore they sacrifice unto their net, and burn incense unto their drag; because by them their portion is fat, and their meat plenteous.

17 Shall they therefore empty their net, and not spare continually to slay the nations?

[Teutone]

Well then I invite you to Egypt if you want .. I will host you in my apartment and send you to some scholars to teach you about Islam. I will even pay for your ticket if you want.

I kiss your heart

[Cristiano viejo]

Lutherans, these fake Christians...

[Ruggery]

Lutherans, these fake Christians...

[Smitty]

Lutherans, these fake Christians...

They are apostates in our era, as are Catholics. They "have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof" (2 Tim 3:5). "It had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them" (2 Peter 2:21). A lesson for me, to be sure.

[Smitty]

Im not really defending them, in the sense that I accept their beliefs, Im just taking a more peaceful, respectful approach instead of drawing Mohammed as pedophile or terrorist. I dont call him my prophet though. The hateful approach might be not only because they are non-white, but because of clash of cultures, you could bash russians or chinese too because of clash of civilisations, and they are white/yellow not by and large brown. It is just a clash of civilisations, probably, that there is mass migration from those places to Europe is definitely a factor too. I take a peaceful approach just.

Some Christians might insult Mohammed but I think the most prominent Christians like the pope himself don't and look for dialogue. Also im not sure if every non Muslim who insults Mohammed is a convinced Christian or maybe someone with no confession at all if someone is French or German and he insults Mohammed he might be or not be Christian it is not necessarily always the same

Well, it's good you don't consider him a prophet. And I agree that a Christian should speak the truth with grace. But a Christian must still speak the truth. And that means recognizing Mohammad for what he is: a false prophet leading millions (billions?) to Hell. So for you to imply that opposition to Mohammad is just "racism" is profoundly problematic. Even if there is a racial motive to it, it is still the appropriate response.

[Mortimer]

Well, it's good you don't consider him a prophet. And I agree that a Christian should speak the truth with grace. But a Christian must still speak the truth. And that means recognizing Mohammad for what he is: a false prophet leading millions (billions?) to Hell. So for you to imply that opposition to Mohammad is just "racism" is profoundly problematic. Even if there is a racial motive to it, it is still the appropriate response.

There is a Jew who calls christians satanic and Jesus Lucifer, I didnt saw much anti-jewish hate, because they pass as white, and because they fool you to be your friends, and western and a democracy and especially americans love them. I didnt saw you speaking out against jews so much or evangelicals. Now some evangelicals burn the Quran or call Mohammed a terrorist. That is certainly because of racials and cultural motiviations, not only because they speak the truth, and also to speak the truth doesnt always mean the same, I can say you should work on your looks because you could improve, but I could also say you are ugly, so you see how you chooose the language is important too.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threa...#post-26822080

[Mortimer]

Also there needs to be no more oppossition to Mohammed then to Judaism or Buddhism or Atheism or anything. It is the same. That there needs to be oppossition to Islam is indeed maybe not racist, but propaganda.