Which war would you change the result?

**Tooting Carmen** · 08-02-2021, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Westbrook

The current outcome of WW2 effectively stunted European development and scientific advancement by nearly a century

How so?

**Damião de Góis** · 08-02-2021, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

Battle of Aljubarrota did not alter anything. Castilla continued being Castilla and Portugal being Portugal, and some centuries later Portugal finished being part of Spain, so if your wish is Portugal and Spain being a same country that battle is not the responsible for the failure of your dream but these others of this war https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerra...B3n_portuguesa

I think those two battles are very different in the sense that in 1385 Portugal didn't have any empire, Vasco da Gama had not reach India, Camões had not written the Lusiadas, Cabral hadn't reach Brazil, etc. Portugal was relatively young in 1385. If Castille won Aljubarrota i find it difficult to see any resistence in the following years. There was also no Habsburgs in Spain at that time so maybe things would turn out differently.

In 1640 things were totally diferent than in 1385 in terms of national pride. So i think alnortedelsur chose the right battle in the context he was talking about.

**alnortedelsur** · 08-03-2021, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

Malvinas war and such are useless wars, their result did not change anything. What should we care if Argentinians had won that war? what would have changed? nothing

I side with Argentinians on the Malvinas issue. Don't you?

I would have liked that an Hispanic American country like Argentina would have won against the Arrogant British.

Darles en la madre.

**alnortedelsur** · 08-03-2021, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex

What would of Spain if the commies (aka Republicans) had won the civil war?

One possibility is that Spain would have become a communist country for decades, a satellite of the USSR, and would have a similar path than the eastern European countries after the USSR collapse and would be nowadays more nationalist/right wing minded, less tolerant to globalist/ liberal ideas such as mass immigration, LGBT, no border control, etc.

I even opened a thread, in the Spanish sub-forum, regarding that hypothetical scenario, and also speculated the same thing as you. as possible outcome. If I find the link of that thread, I would tell you.

Another possible outcome of Republicans wining the war, however, if that Spain would probably have ended up invaded by Nazi Germany in World War II.

In any case, if Republicans had won the civil war, I don't know if me and my siblings would have been born, because thanks to Franco, my Spanish paternal grandpa (who was Republican) settled in Venezuela with his family fleeing from Franco, and later on, my mom met my Venezuelan dad when she was adult.

**Tooting Carmen** · 08-03-2021, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by alnortedelsur

I even opened a thread, in the Spanish sub-forum, regarding that hypothetical scenario, and also speculated the same thing as you. as possible outcome. If I find the link of that thread, I would tell you.

Another possible outcome of Republicans wining the war, however, if that Spain would probably have ended up invaded by Nazi Germany on World War II

In any case, if Republicans had won the civil war, I don't know if me and my siblings would have been born, because thanks to Franco, my Spanish paternal grandpa (who was Republican) settled in Venezuela with his family fleeing from Franco, and later on, my mom met my Venezuelan dad when she was adult.

Found it for you.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...jor-a-la-larga

**Andullero** · 08-03-2021, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Damião de Góis

I think those two battles are very different in the sense that in 1385 Portugal didn't have any empire, Vasco da Gama had not reach India, Camões had not written the Lusiadas, Cabral hadn't reach Brazil, etc. Portugal was relatively young in 1385. If Castille won Aljubarrota i find it difficult to see any resistence in the following years. There was also no Habsburgs in Spain at that time so maybe things would turn out differently.

In 1640 things were totally diferent than in 1385 in terms of national pride. So i think alnortedelsur chose the right battle in the context he was talking about.

It's very possible that if Miguel Da Paz would have survived infancy and inherited the Castillian and Aragonese crowns from his grandparents that Portugal would have ended up dominating the Union. And on the plus side, no Habsburghs.

**frankhammer** · 08-03-2021, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by alnortedelsur

I side with Argentinians on the Malvinas issue. Don't you?

I would have liked that an Hispanic American country like Argentina would have won against the Arrogant British.

Darles en la madre.

The arrogance seems to lie on the Argentine and its allies side or at least, so it seems from most comments posted by the pro-Malvinas members here.

**Westbrook** · 08-03-2021, 02:39 AM

The Reich was on a completely different level of science and engineering. There's no telling where the world would be today in the fields of technology, physics, etc had they not been destroyed and half of Europe plunged into 50 years of poverty and darkness thanks to the Soviets.

Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen

How so?

**Mortimer** · 08-03-2021, 03:20 AM

99 Serbia vs. NATO

Serbia wins, humiliates arrogant evil NATO forces

**Mortimer** · 08-03-2021, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Mortimer

99 Serbia vs. NATO

Serbia wins, humiliates arrogant evil NATO forces

I wouldnt kill any shkipac (albo) just defeat KLA and NATO. The albos live in kosovo like always. I think it was overexaggerated that serbian troops do all those horrible stuff maybe some did but it was not general rule, some albanians also did, did you heard of the organ trade?