Slavic infighting

[Satem]

I wouldn't say it is only language. Slovenians are closer genetically to Belarusians than Italians from Veneto who are their neighbours geographically!
From Ljubljana to Minsk there is about 1270 km (+ Carpathian Mountains), from Ljubljana to Veneto only 180 km.
I am talking about autosomal genetics which is more relevant, not some haplogroups nonsense.

I would say Slavs are very close by language, culture and genetics.
I am not saying we are the same but still much closer than many people imagine.

I think the biggest problem for our Slavic identity is the West. Slavs are looking to the West and don't know much about their Slavic neigbours.

In case of autosomal genetics Hungarians are also close to Slavs as well and it doesn't make them Slavic. That's one of the reasons why I don't count genetics as part of Slavic term. Many people imagine we are close, that's why all post communist countries are called Eastern European. This simplification exists strongly in mind of many ordinary people.

Slavic identity was kind of reborn with pan-Slavic idea, especially in XIX century. It's popular mostly for people that think it could be used only for interests of their nation and that their issues would be the most important in that case. It simply doesn't work like that imo.

We can be close by culture in meaning where there are no other groups close to us. On the other hand it doesn't mean there are no differences for example if I am not wrong only Serbs celebrate Slava. Even culture between regions is different, just let's look on East Poland vs Silesia. The differences exist not only because some forced Slavs to split, it was also aware decision that for example Ukrainians feel different to Russians etc

About looking to West, every country in the world used to look on America and takes all cultural influence from there in matters of pop culture but also "deep culture" just because it has power(yet). When China will take more and more power it will get more attention what can be seen already. It's natural we try to follow those who have power

Of course it's just my opinion, I hope I made it clear what is the reasoning of my thinking, it's the only aim of this reply. Sorry for long post

[michal3141]

In case of autosomal genetics Hungarians are also close to Slavs as well and it doesn't make them Slavic. That's one of the reasons why I don't count genetics as part of Slavic term. Many people imagine we are close, that's why all post communist countries are called Eastern European. This simplification exists strongly in mind of many ordinary people.

Slavic identity was kind of reborn with pan-Slavic idea, especially in XIX century. It's popular mostly for people that think it could be used only for interests of their nation and that their issues would be the most important in that case. It simply doesn't work like that imo.

We can be close by culture in meaning where there are no other groups close to us. On the other hand it doesn't mean there are no differences for example if I am not wrong only Serbs celebrate Slava. Even culture between regions is different, just let's look on East Poland vs Silesia. The differences exist not only because some forced Slavs to split, it was also aware decision that for example Ukrainians feel different to Russians etc

About looking to West, every country in the world used to look on America and takes all cultural influence from there in matters of pop culture but also "deep culture" just because it has power(yet). When China will take more and more power it will get more attention what can be seen already. It's natural we try to follow those who have power

Of course it's just my opinion, I hope I made it clear what is the reasoning of my thinking, it's the only aim of this reply. Sorry for long post

You are of course correct with your remarks. I understand your point. However, I would like to elaborate on my opinion a bit more.

I don't think Hungarians are the very good example. Of course there are close friends historically but still with very different language.
For me language and genetics are very important factors and must go together.
You can feel it when you travel abroad.
When you visit Lvov you can talk in Polish and be understood, people on the streets look very similar to Poles, you feel basically at home.
When you visit Spain or Italy it is a different story completely. Different language, different phenotypes, different mentality.

You've mentioned cultural differences. Of course there are many differences! Everywhere in the world.
For instance, Northern Chinese are very different from Southern Chinese. Both by language and by genetics.
They are more different than Russians and Macedonians both by genetics and their original language.

[Peterski]

I think the biggest problem for our Slavic identity is the West. Slavs are looking to the West and don't know much about their Slavic neigbours.

Slavs are more compatible with the Jews/Israel than with the West, probably:

[Aldaris]

Religion wouldnt change the views of the Slavs toward the others just because of the faith in the same stuff..nothing would be diffrent,there would still be bloodshed t

I don't think we can tell. Common religious affiliance is always a bonding factor.

[Rumata]

Russian-Polish bittery

On TA this bitterness is almost exclusively by Ulev and Rethel even though they'd deny it too.

[Jana]

In case of autosomal genetics Hungarians are also close to Slavs as well and it doesn't make them Slavic. That's one of the reasons why I don't count genetics as part of Slavic term.

That's because Hungarians are genetically more Slavic than anything else. Slavic genetics is a fact and we know what it looks like.

[Jana]

Yes! Half of Slavs are German's puppets, let's be honest.
Division started with Catholicism.

Slavs were separated by religion before Catholicism and Orthodoxy existed, and western Christian Slavs were baptised before eastern ones. Your lack of education is amusing.

[Rumata]

And Rethel wouldn't limit himself with Russians as for him Orthodoxy is idolatry. Well, it's Rethel.

[Aldaris]

On TA this bitterness is almost exclusively by Ulev and Rethel even though they'd deny it too.

And Rethel wouldn't limit himself with Russians as for him Orthodoxy is idolatry. Well, it's Rethel.

No need to go over the egde, they are both idiots.

[Satem]

On TA this bitterness is almost exclusively by Ulev and Rethel even though they'd deny it too.

As well as the only Russians taking part in such discussions are you and KirillMazur