Lady calls Radio station saying miscegenation is a pollutant..

[Luso]

Depends on how you look at it really.

I personally don't believe it is neither nor "sick" nor pollutant. However I am an ethno-Nationalist so I do believe it is unnatural and possibly immoral at mass amounts. All nations should belong to the racial people native to that land. I don't like open borders and I don't necessarily promote race-mixing, but I don't fully despise it either.

I agree with the sentiment of fearing that immigrants will take over a native population. But I see no problem with low numbers, and proven educated, individuals moving about... I read someone say earlier in this thread (i think creoda?) that England is being taken over by immigrants, and there are less actual whites than non-whites? Well, almost 80% of Englanders are still white, most non-whites are probably in London or something but still it's at that figure, in Scotland and Wales it's well over 90% white. So it isn't close to catastrophe levels to be freaking over it.

[PaleoEuropean]

Is she single?

[Dimitri159]

I agree with the sentiment of fearing that immigrants will take over a native population. But I see no problem with low numbers, and proven educated, individuals moving about... I read someone say earlier in this thread (i think creoda?) that England is being taken over by immigrants, and there are less actual whites than non-whites? Well, almost 80% of Englanders are still white, most non-whites are probably in London or something but still it's at that figure, in Scotland and Wales it's well over 90% white. So it isn't close to catastrophe levels to be freaking over it.

I agree. Smaller minorities will not make a huge impact. My point was that I'm against the current migrant/refugee crisis happening in Europe at mass amounts. Hordes of migration should NOT be entering Europe.

[Dimitri159]

They have changed environment. And are given substantial economic and social help. Yet they still commit a lot more crime compared both to their share to the population of the given country (the UK) and ofc, compared to Britons.

Plus, you comparing ethnicities between them and attributing genetic characteristics to the crime activity of the one (Albanians) and the other having changed due to the environment proves my point. Some groups are by their culture and genetics, who shape the culture, as culture is defined by the ethnic group, violent.

For how long though? African migrants are fairly recent migrants in Europe, I'd assume migration hordes started within the past few maybe four decades at most. Greeks and S Italians here in Canada/USA are integrated because our community has been here since the early 20th century. But in the beginning we were always associated with higher crime rates, both blue and white collar crimes.

And I didn't prove your point unless you agree that it is NOT genetics/race that determines an ethnic-group's hostility or obedience. I said Albanians behave quite similar to African migrants in Europe, but Albanians are still European genetically/racially. My point is that Europeans are not all the same either, because of culture, environment, etc... NOT race! Greeks and Albanians are racially almost identical, but our culture & environment are world's apart and that's why they behave so differently and can't get along. I feel most of us Greeks fit in quite well with Italians, Christian Arabs, etc. even more than Albanians... even though we are genetically closer to Albanians.

Greeks here favor education, success and we are mostly all well behaved, yet at the same time we are loud & expressive. We live suburban lifestyles too. Albanians here on the other hand seem to live life on the edge. They seem to be lower income, large city-dwellers. They too are loud and expressive but unlike Greeks, it often times turns more violent.

[Jon96]

I agree with the sentiment of fearing that immigrants will take over a native population. But I see no problem with low numbers, and proven educated, individuals moving about... I read someone say earlier in this thread (i think creoda?) that England is being taken over by immigrants, and there are less actual whites than non-whites? Well, almost 80% of Englanders are still white, most non-whites are probably in London or something but still it's at that figure, in Scotland and Wales it's well over 90% white. So it isn't close to catastrophe levels to be freaking over it.

Yup, you are correct. Plus Zeno's point about London is incorrect as well. I could go into details on why more crime is committed and why some statistics are inaccurate but I don't give a shit. Zeno lied to prove a point. Anything he says now will be irrelevant. He did the same thing with gender wages and I pulled out the largest and most upto date study and then he changed goalposts to say that men earn only slightly more than women. Anyways, that's irrelevant. His lies and outdated information has been exposed once again. He talks about all crime as well.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...te%20of%2099.5.

"With a crime rate of 100.9 per 1000 people the Yorkshire and Humber region, had the highest crime rate of all the regions of the United Kingdom in 2019/20." Not London.

https://observatory.leeds.gov.uk/population/
As you can see, the Yorkshire and Humber region is even more white than the average of England at 85+ percent. So much for Zeno's point.

Also Luso regarding your point about most London being largely non-white:

As per the 2011 census, 60 percent of the population is white. I know it's outdated but still

Considering Zeno's politics really is nazism(check his profile), can you really be surprised by what he says? Longbowman completely trashed him last time (that incident led to Zeno's ban).

[Longbowman]

Sounds like someone should introduce her to Richmondbread. Do I hear wedding bells?

As for the rest, who cares what some bigoted lady thinks? Let her have her opinion.

[Creoda]

technically Celtic Britons aren't English either

They pre-date England. They are half or more of the English ethnogenesis, which means the English have roots in Britain going back another 1000+ years.

[XenophobicPrussian]

David Lammy is absolutely right. She is mistaking nationality with race... blame the English for going around the world and spreading their genes around everywhere bc even he has some, and quite frankly he was born and raised in England so he is "English". He poses the great point of "what is British, what is English?" Because whatever natives of that area were invaded by Danes, Celts, etc. just like how the Caribbean was invaded by the British, so this argumentation can be applied to many modern ethnic groups. Then... we talk about the significantly "white" population in Barbados... they identify as Carribeans, not English, just bc they get English on a genetic test doesn't matter to THEM, the Caribbean is where they've lived their entire life.

Going by this lady... the Queen of England is not English lol... her family changed their name from the German... Saxe-Coburg Gotha. Bad logic on her part. Another comment reminded me as well... take, for example, a boy from Kenya age 1 goes to England, is a product of the English education system, only knowns English, is he not English now? He definitely isn't really Kenyan either... besides genetically, but societally he is conformed and is English in my books.

Funny part - if you wanna get nitpicky- is also: the origin of this women's name 'Jean'- derives from the Old French Jehanne, which is derived from the Latin name Johannes, itself from the Koine Greek name Ioannes (Ιωαννης). The Greek name ultimately derives from the Biblical Hebrew.. I guess she ain't English either.

You're the one mistaking nationality. English is an ethnic group, not a nationality. British is a nationality. Kind of like what Nick Griffin used to argue, he conceded black Britons were "British". That was the lady's main point, she was hardly even based until she said the pollutant line.

Btw, so because Danes and Saxons invaded, forced themselves onto the natives of Britain, the current inhabitants of Britain need to willfully agree to accept new people into their ethnic group(yes, mixed like all modern ethnic groups, but a specific mix and mutually agreed upon ethnic group with a long history now)?

and lmao, neither you or David Lammy knows what white Barbadian people identify as. No, it probably won't be English though, as they're largely descended from Irish plantation workers forcefully sent there you dolt. Also, this is your "significantly white" Barbados:

The population of Barbados is predominantly black (91%) or mixed (4%).[1] 3.5% of the population is white and 1% South Asian. The remaining 0.5% of the population includes East Asians (0.1%).

The Caribbean used to have a lot more white people, even Jamaica did. After colonialism was over, guess what, they willfully left, whether it was to the UK, Canada, Australia, etc. They all moved to places with less Caribbean people. So much for identifying as Caribbeans. The only Caribbean nation with a significant amount of white people is Bermuda, who largely live segregated from the poorer Caribbeans in the upscale neighbourhoods and are such a small population numbers wise anyway they aren't even worth mentioning.

Names aren't genes or even arguably culture btw. I could name my kid Shaniqua and she'd still be the ethnicity of her parents.

"hue hue hue the Queen of England isn't English"

WOW ETHNOCENTRISM BTFO as if every English nationalist is a Monarchist.

Yes he is right, quite amazing really people still think like this lady does.

I do get how British + nationality, ie British Indian, Black British etc, as it already represents a number of nations together, might work better (similar to Irish American, Afro American etc), but David was born here so he can call himself what he likes.

Old lady went beyond the pale really, it is 2021 for heavens sake

I didn't take you for a cuck.




Also, pollutant isn't a nice term to use, but if it can be proven white British are objectively better looking, smarter and have better character traits than black Caribbeans(I think even the better looking part can be objectively proven based on things like fashion models per capita or self reported surveys), you bet your ass it's a technically correct term to use(of course not in every individual case, but as a whole), even if I wouldn't use it myself.

[Dick]

The Caribbean used to have a lot more white people, even Jamaica did.

Bob Marley's parents

[Ygsi]

English people are are descended from Anglo-Saxons and Celtic Britons, and native to Britain for 1500 years. It's pretty simple. They are White and NW European.


What year it is is irrelevant to the truth.

Blacks are not English, calling them so is White Genocide, erasing the English as unique ethnicity.

Race-mixing with blacks is indeed pollution, unless you think England becoming brown is desirable.

Obviously this forum is full of "Europe belongs to everyone" tarded types. Destroys the whole purpose of the forum, since, at least on paper, it is supposed to be about European culture and stuff like that.