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    Interestingly,there is a correlation between peoples with J2 origin and mountainous regions.You can find such haplogroups in Mongolian-Manchurian groups also because that is result of Turkic admixture in East Asian nomads and sedentar groups.

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    J1 and J2 are present in Southern Europe. The reason why it's also present in Mesopotamia is because our ancestors lived there, and they built the first human civilization, Sumeria.

    Dudley Buxton and Talbot Rice, two British researchers, conducted a study on the human remains found at Kish.

    "The investigations of Sir Arthur Keith on the skulls from 'Ubaid, near Ur, definitely prove the Sumerians to belong to the long-headed races, and Dr. Buxton finds two long-headed races in the palace skulls at Kish, which he designates as Eurafrican and Mediterranean."

    Eurafrican is the Atlanto-Mediterranid type found all across Southern Europe.

    What the study found is that Sumerians were Europids generally and Mediterranids specifically.


    (See: Report on the Human Remains Found at Kish, L. H. Dudley Buxton and D. Talbot Rice)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    It was suggested by ZallouaWells 2004 and al-Zaheri 2003. And Sumer is one of the oldest civilizations, following the fact of Civilization = J2 presence at elite level we can determine that they had J2.
    So it was merely a guess by ZallouaWells 2004 and al-Zaheri 2003. I was just curious how you could tell that Sumerians were of J2 haplotype when no DNA analysis was done on their skeletal remains which were many, or at least not published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleDarkAge View Post
    J1 and J2 are present in Southern Europe. The reason why it's also present in Mesopotamia is because our ancestors lived there, and they built the first human civilization, Sumeria.
    Yes, the first sons were Sumerian J2’s. Other haplos are basically our deformed children. Well, except maybe those in the broader IJ family.
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    The Age of R1 is over... The time of the J2, has come (again)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinshen View Post
    So it was merely a guess by ZallouaWells 2004 and al-Zaheri 2003. I was just curious how you could tell that Sumerians were of J2 haplotype when no DNA analysis was done on their skeletal remains which were many, or at least not published.
    It’s a logical assumption considering all civilization was built by J2s (thus including Sumeria, which is in a logical position for the J2 origin both chronologically and geographically).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    I never realized until now how much J2 was in East Asia/SE Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    These so called turanics are one of the many children of our J2 Sumerian super-race. But not all of it is related
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    These so called turanics are one of the many children of our J2 Sumerian super-race. But not all of it is related
    Whats your theory for Vietnam/Cambodia? I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Whats your theory for Vietnam/Cambodia? I have no idea.
    Quite simply
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinh_D...%C6%B0%C6%A1ng
    This man is the supposed creator and ancestor of the Vietnamese.
    But he himself is descended from this man:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shennong
    "Shennong taught humans the use of the plow, aspects of basic agriculture, and the use of medicinal plants"
    Basically, a J2 who migrated to the region (Sumeria->Indian Ocean route?)by spreading agriculture and civilization. This is how he is depicted:

    Not very Han looking. Those J2 in Indochina are likely his descendants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndoEuropeanR1b View Post
    R1b > J2
    Nah

    But also

    E-V13>>>>>R1a

    Albanians are outbreeding your cuck slav race in a blink of an eye

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