Is the USA considered most conservative country in the West?

[Galactus]

Russians are Europeans, therefore they could be counted as west just like Greeks or Bulgarians or Ukranians. The real division is not cultural but political, that there is rivarly between NATO countries and Russia. Russia is a European country, therefore west. And I disagree a bit about their whiteness, Russia is 90% ethnic Russian. And ethnic russians are whiter then ethnic French, I saw a video about a french guy in Eastern Ukraine and he was the woggiest of all people interviewed, the darkest too. He was there because he felt more safe in Minsk then in Paris. No way Russia is as white as Spain, Russia is as white as Sweden or Finnland.

But Russia surely isn't whiter than Britain or Ireland. Those places are known for having the fairest skin in the world. Russia probably isn't whiter than the Netherlands or the Baltic countries either.

[Duffmannn]

It is the most conservative and the most progressive-liberal at the same time.

[Tooting Carmen]

It is the most conservative and the most progressive-liberal at the same time.

What do you mean?

[Tannhauser]

It is the most conservative and the most progressive-liberal at the same time.

That's what makes it so liberal.

[Tooting Carmen]

That's what makes it so liberal.

[Duffmannn]

Those are only the policies of the government though. Latin America is very socially conservative.

It´s changing very fast, as usual, between universitary students and the whitest segments of the population.

[Tooting Carmen]

It´s changing very fast, as usual, between university students and the whitest segments of the population.

And not just them either. General birth rates and divorce rates are only marginally different from the norm in Europe and North America. This romantic notion that many on both the Left and the Right have that Latin Americans are all family-loving devout Catholics, insofar as it had any truth whatsoever, is certainly a massive con nowadays.

[Duffmannn]

And not just them either. General birth rates and divorce rates are only marginally different from the norm in Europe and North America. This romantic notion that many on both the Left and the Right have that Latin Americans are all family-loving devout Catholics, insofar as it had any truth whatsoever, is certainly a massive con nowadays.

I wanted to point that the process of "progressiveness conversion" is fully completed in these mentioned segments. But as you point, the progress is general.

In Latin America, become progressive, is seen as a path for progress, something to adopt from Europe and North America (as they lack a proper strong own culture in politics, social minding, or so; from its inception, Latin America has just adopted western politics and values and hasn´t exported nothing original). And they try to adopt it in a very radical way than here (converso faith), many people in this forum would be surprised how progressive can be latin american whitey young people. In comparison with a liberal-progressive paradise as Spain, they would be seen here extremely progressive by everyone, they could cause shocks here.

As usual, they join this tendence late, as progressism, still not in decline in the West, but certainly now contested and opposed. Probably in some decades, Latin America will become the paradise of progressism (no joke)

[Tooting Carmen]

I wanted to point that the process of "progressiveness conversion" is fully completed in these mentioned segments. But as you point, the progress is general.

In Latin America, become progressive, is seen as a path for progress, something to adopt from Europe and North America (as they lack a proper strong own culture in politics, social minding, or so; from its inception, Latin America has just adopted western politics and values and hasn´t exported nothing original). And they try to adopt it in a very radical way than here (converso faith), many people in this forum would be surprised how progressive can be latin american whitey young people. In comparison with a liberal-progressive paradise as Spain, they would be seen here extremely progressive by everyone, they could cause shocks here.

As usual, they join this tendence late, as progressism, still not in decline in the West, but certainly now contested and opposed. Probably in some decades, Latin America will become the paradise of progressism (no joke)

Yes and no. I don't see much that is 'progressive' about Northern Central America, while even neighbouring South American countries can be politically very different - think Colombia vs Venezuela, or Chile vs Argentina.

[Duffmannn]

Yes and no. I don't see much that is 'progressive' about Northern Central America, while even neighbouring South American countries can be politically very different - think Colombia vs Venezuela, or Chile vs Argentina.

Let them run the path. Argentina and Uruguay are serious contenders to enter Top10 progresiveness countries very soon. The universtary people in Brazil is also very ingrained of progressism, and as I myself have experienced, it happens too (and is growing) in a country like Mexico (still traditionalist, but not as traditionalist as it was just 20 years ago, the process is very fast). If Mexico is on this point, it means that countries with similar social structures, as Peru, Colombia, Ecuador or Dominican Republic, must be in a similar situation. I don´t know the real situation of Chile, but knowing the fanatism and frentism that characterise hispanic societies, just only to oppose pinochetism, must be a very wide progressive population (be them real progressive or frentist progressives doesn´t care, the out-product will be the same).

Progressism hasn´t advanced in the poorerst, most indigenous and closed countries, with less contact with the outer world and its influence, less universitary-progressive-marxism population, less power of the internet; namely Bolivia and some central american countries. As it happens in Europe, the communist countries are way less affected by progressism because are culturally closed countries (Venezuela, Cuba), and because the population (correctly) identifies progressissm as another form of that communist poison that has fucked their lives.