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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    That is liberal authoritarian.
    This is already the case in Sweden:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunnos View Post
    Poland is more right wing shifted than the USA. Poland and several other former East Bloc countries.
    I wouldn't consider Poland part of the West though.

    I guess Italy may be able to give the US a run for their money, especially on social issues, and Czechia if they can be considered western. I'd say Spain/Portugal are less conservative than white Americans as much as it would hurt someone like Cristian Viejo to hear.

    I'd probably say US takes the top spot, yeah.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    IMHO except for some specific areas, USA is much much more conservative.

    I copy samario's comment in a thread that I have done about Latin America, they may be useful.
    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    From a social standpoint, Uruguay, Argentina and Colombia are amongst the most 'liberal' regarding personal freedoms and civil rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0 View Post
    IMHO except for some specific areas, USA is much much more conservative.

    I copy samario's comment in a thread that I have done about Latin America, they may be useful.
    Those are only the policies of the government though. Latin America is very socially conservative.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Those are only the policies of the government though. Latin America is very socially conservative.
    yep, and it doesn't prove my point that usa is much more conservative than west europe. But since I had just seen that comment I thought the maps would be useful.It was just an addition

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Those are only the policies of the government though. Latin America is very socially conservative.
    Yes but it is for the up-country. I think the difference between europe and the new world is that Europeans changed a lot after WW2

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Yes but it is for the up-country. I think the difference between europe and the new world is that Europeans changed a lot after WW2
    Highly disagree, Europe already had a lot of socialism compared to the brutal industrializing every man for himself wild west of the US in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The first transgender activist was well before WW2, and was German(albeit Jewish), not American. Stuff like voting rights for the poor and women were far earlier in Europe too, you also already had a shift toward leftism in many prominent writers and philosophers(although it was still mixed, you didn't see as much of a mix in the US), Weimer Republic and its social degeneracy was a thing, etc. Italian/Spanish style Anarchism or Marxism wasn't as big in the US as it was in Europe. Female Danish Royals and socialites loved giving out foreign aid to third world countries as early as the late 1800s, US foreign aid consisted of Christian missions, etc, etc, etc.

    The differences between Americans and W. Europeans are likely there from the first settlers.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Highly disagree, Europe already had a lot of socialism compared to the brutal industrializing every man for himself wild west of the US in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The first transgender activist was well before WW2, and was German(albeit Jewish), not American. Stuff like voting rights for the poor and women were far earlier in Europe too, you also already had a shift toward leftism in many prominent writers and philosophers(although it was still mixed, you didn't see as much of a mix in the US), Weimer Republic and its social degeneracy was a thing, etc. Italian/Spanish style Anarchism or Marxism wasn't as big in the US as it was in Europe. .
    In Europe there is Christian socialism and Karl Marx against monarchy and land ownership for "lords". I don't know when they started attacking family values (which is different from attacking the English economic liberal). Hitler and Mussolini were opportunistic dictators who claimed to improve the lives of the poor, but actually want something else (these "socialists" are well known in Latam who use the poor to get elected and do not want to get out of power).

    Female Danish Royals and socialites loved giving out foreign aid to third world countries
    This is Christian capitalism for the rich proposed by H.Spencer (rich are rich due to natural selection and poor are poor these are the laws of nature according to the theory of evolution), where a rich man must do charity to enter heaven's door. It is followed by Rockefeller until Zuckerberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Those are only the policies of the government though. Latin America is very socially conservative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Keeps the people together for a commom, otherwise they become selfish and lazy.
    Funny you post an israeli video, nothing more leftist tham the Kibbutzim, Even their "right" counterpart the Moshavim would smell like Communism for most westerners.
    Nevertheless a war does't keep the crime rates down and prisons empty, as yu basucally stated before. Social security and a homogenous society does though.


    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    social security is in deficit and young labor is scarce and more expensive
    Any western state is in deficite, including the US. Haveing 2 or 3 jobs and still not being able to afford a decent living can't be the solution either. The economy is there to improve living conditions of the people, not vice versa.


    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    I was talking about before the covid, EU is growing well below the world average...
    On a fairly high level though, as you might agree..

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