French people look closer to the Dutch or Spaniards?

[Oliver109]

Partially true. England had much more ties with France both culturally and genetically than the Southern Netherlands had. Although there is a French influence in the Netherlands during the French period, that was just culturally though.

The Megalithic and Celtic connections between France & England are clear while Southern Netherlands was more isolated. It's where the Franks settled and from there on went to conquer Gaul. Franks ultimately originated somewhere in Denmark, just like the rest of the Germanic tribes and migrated southwards.

True mostly though i think that the Alpine race probably had more of a seat in Netherlands than in England which suggests similarities in the populations, you only need to look at the cepalhic index in S Netherlands compared to anywhere in England.

[Africanwidow]

True mostly though i think that the Alpine race probably had more of a seat in Netherlands than in England which suggests similarities in the populations, you only need to look at the cepalhic index in S Netherlands compared to anywhere in England.

I don't disagree. I think the Southern Netherlands has more Borreby types overall. But they aren't mostly pure. Often mixed with Kelto-Nordids. You find a few Sub-Nordids once in a while too where the similarities with French show.

The cephalic index in France, even when you account for regional differences is extreme compared to the Southern Dutch and English.

[Ketchup]

The Dutch

[PaganPoet]

Dutch, but southern ones.

[Valenman]

South-Western French and Basc are basically no very diferent to Iberians
Corsigans are basically no very diferent to Italians
But the rest are probably more close to Dutch

[Septentrion]

Basically those French north of the Loire look like Dutch, those in Brittany and south of the Loire more like Spanish.

Putting in mind that France is the largest country in the European Union. I'm going to have to take three French groups (North, West, South-West) compare them to Northern Spaniards and the Southern Dutch in the frequency of blonde hair.
Blond hair (lightest to darkest shades) frequency:
Northern Spain
Galicia: 12%
Asturias: 11%
Cantabria: 10%
Basque Country: 7%
Navarre: 8%

Vs

Northern French
Pas-de-Calais: 24%
Nord: 23%
Somme: 22%
Oise: 21%
Aisne: 20%

Western France
Bretagne: 20%
Pays de la Loire: 19%
Normandie: 19%
Poitou-Charentes: 18%

South-Western France
Aquitaine: 17%
Midi-Pyrenees: 16%
Limousin: 15%

Vs

Southern Netherlands
Zuid-Holland: 30.5%
Zeeland: 28.7%
Noord-Brabant: 29.8%
Limburg: 28.4%

The Dutch are lighter (In this case, blonder) than the French, while the Spanish are darker (more brunet). The Northern French are closer to the Dutch vs the Southwest French who are obviously closer to Spaniards. The Western French seem to be in-between.

[Septentrion]

I think France has overlap with both, but who do they resemble more? Dont't forget to vote please.

These are the populations who are most similar to the Northern French in physical appearance:
1) Belgians (both Fleming and Walloons), (2) Dutch (especially southern ones), (3) English (especially the Southeast English, (4) Western Germans, (5) Luxembourgers

[Gallop]

Target: Dutch
Distance: 11.7150% / 0.11715024
72.2 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_4
27.8 las_gobas

Target: French_Nord
Distance: 1.6967% / 0.01696706
64.0 las_gobas
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6.2 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_5
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3.0 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_4

Target: French_South
Distance: 12.2924% / 0.12292373
59.8 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_4
40.2 las_gobas

Target: Spanish_Cantabria
Distance: 12.3472% / 0.12347190
60.0 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_4
40.0 las_gobas

Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 12.4926% / 0.12492580
59.6 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_4
40.4 las_gobas

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.3400% / 0.01339993
93.8 las_gobas
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1.8 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_4



Evidently to the Spaniards.

[aherne]

French and Spaniards are largely made of the same components (Iberian & Keltic) but in very different proportions. Dutch have lots of Germanic CM (Faelid) that doesn't exist among the French... Scando-Nordic is also not common at all (but it exists in the North).

Iberians: 90% South European, 10% Keltic
French: 50% South European, 40% Keltic, 10% Germanic
Dutch (not Flemings): 60% Germanic, 20% Keltic, 20% South European