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Thread: Zsellérs (Żelarzes, Želiars, Söllners) in Hungary and Slovakia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Read the first post, and if you are so wise, then answer the question: when the żeliar's obligations were abolished
    in Slovakia. For such wise man like you, it shoudln't be a problem. So stop whining and share your wodefull wisdom.
    If you've read my comments before, since you are so wise, you would understand that this term and everything coming with it, mostly noone in Slovakia knows about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    mostly noone in Slovakia knows about.
    History started in 1993? 5,5 mln ignorants? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    History started in 1993? 5,5 mln ignorants? Really?
    Postavenie a povinnosti želiarov upravovali rôzne zákony. Napr. podľa Tereziánskeho urbára komorníci odvádzali ročne zemepánovi 1 zlatý domovej dane a 18 dní ručnej práce a podludníci odvádzali len 12 dní ručnej práce do roka. Do 17. storočia sa od podželiarov robota nevyžadovala.

    Na zmluvných želiarov sa nevzťahoval zákon o zrušení poddanstva z roku 1848 ani urbársky patent z roku 1853, vykúpenie z ich služobných povinností umožnil až zákon z roku 1896.

    Z vrstvy želiarov vznikla v druhej polovici 19. storočia vrstva deputátnikov.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    Postavenie a povinnosti želiarov upravovali rôzne zákony. Napr. podľa Tereziánskeho urbára komorníci odvádzali ročne zemepánovi 1 zlatý domovej dane a 18 dní ručnej práce a podludníci odvádzali len 12 dní ručnej práce do roka. Do 17. storočia sa od podželiarov robota nevyžadovala.

    Na zmluvných želiarov sa nevzťahoval zákon o zrušení poddanstva z roku 1848 ani urbársky patent z roku 1853, vykúpenie z ich služobných povinností umožnil až zákon z roku 1896.

    Z vrstvy želiarov vznikla v druhej polovici 19. storočia vrstva deputátnikov.


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    I gave you that link, so do you think, you need to give me it again?

    Ok, I get it, you just know nothing and you're unable even to going to know.
    But remember: your ignrance is not my fault, so don't be angry at me, but at yourself.

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    zsellér (agricultural wage worker) - from the Mittelhochdeutsch seldner, means tenant.

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