Zsellérs (Żelarzes, Želiars, Söllners) in Hungary and Slovakia.

[Rethel]

I harldy find how it is called in slovak, so sorry, but I can't in hungarian.
But as this word came from hungarian and was in the same country then
I think it will be understood by hungarian speakers also.

My question is: when the last želiarish obligatons were abolished in both Hungary and Slovakia
(and evetually in other parts of the former hungarian kingdom like Romania and Yugoslavia)?

In Poland, in ex-hungarian villages, last želiar-obligatons were abolished in 1931, and the last Želiar died in 2006.

[Blondie]

I have no idea what is "Želiar"

[Rethel]

I have no idea what is "Želiar"

I can't find it in any other language than polish and slovak.

It is s form of tenancy of land, para-feudal rent, which was not abolished by emancipation acts in 1848.

[TheMaestro]

želiar is a Slovak word not Hungarian, and 90% of Slovaks neither know what the word is.

Rethelite what kind of drugs you use.

[Rethel]

želiar is a Slovak word not Hungarian, and 90% of Slovaks neither know what the word is.

Rethelite what kind of drugs you use.

Insted of insulting, you would rather educate yourself, because such things you should know. It is primary school level.

Here: https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BDeliar I have in mind the first meaning.

[Rethel]

I have no idea what is "Želiar"

It is s form of tenancy of land, para-feudal rent, which was not abolished by emancipation acts in 1848.

In hungarian it will be probably zsellér, but who was given a piece of field.

Here: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsell%C3%A9r

želiar is a Slovak word not Hungarian

So it is hungarian after all, from german Söllner. Check your own drugs. And native dictionary.

[Blondie]

Zsellérs were simple peasants, nowadays it's mosty a pejorative term. In Hungary the feudalism ended after 1945, Horthy kept the old feudal social system of Habsburg Monarchy, and the communists abolished it.

[Rethel]

Zsellérs were simple peasants, nowadays it's mosty a pejorative term. In Hungary the feudalism ended after 1945

I always thought we were the last...
But at least the last free tails ended also in 1945...

[TheMaestro]

In hungarian it will be probably zsellér, but who was given a piece of field.

Here: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsell%C3%A9r




So it is hungarian after all, from german Söllner. Check your own drugs. And native dictionary.

I don't need to check my native dictionary since this word is archaic at this point and noone uses this word, why would you even create this nonsense thread.

[Rethel]

why would you even create this nonsense thread.

Read the first post, and if you are so wise, then answer the question: when the żeliar's obligations were abolished
in Slovakia. For such wise man like you, it shoudln't be a problem. So stop whining and share your wodefull wisdom.