Vahaduo Kype and his agenda

[Leto]

Do as you wish. Of course I would prefer this as obviously from my perspective they are clearly Kurds. The most unpolitical stance would be to take Kurd away as suffix from Soran, Kurmanc, Feyli too. I am not trying to push my ideology on people I am trying to make you guys understand since over half a year why I feel the way it is now is not neutral but political. You either give the suffix all or take it away from all.

Okay, I've asked him to add Kurd. Like I said without the word Kurd it'd be less recognizeable. Kurds are known to everyone.

[Lucas]

I can add that without people contribution Dodecad K12 oracle would be poor and outdated like rest of Dodecad sheets. Now it's better than K15 and on pair with K13. Better be hapy from this fact then seeks problems and agendas.

[Zoro]

Hey Lucas since you didn't answer my PM. And you didn't seem to care about the fact that. Dubious liars like Kype and Leto, who claims to be a East European (with hard fettish for West, South and Central Asia ) do what they want with Kurdish samples.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7067059


Interestingly you guys go with "Western classifications" when it suits your agenda and always then when it is not in favour of Kurds. If you are so into Western classification how does it come that Feylis are listed as "Iran_Feyli" in this data set and seperated by the Iran_Kurdish average. Despite Feyli(Kelhuri/Leki) being classified virtually by any linguist as part of the Kurdish Dialects?

Lucas you should seriously keep a closer eye on these things, because people with agendas are obviously manipulating the datasets.

It shouldn't be allowed to random people to create their own datasets.

First, I will say that:

1- I don't care about Admixture calculators in general. IBS and formal stats such as qpAdm, f3, dstat etc are able to give you much more meaningful results

2- I don't care about Vahaduo now that I have learned how to make Admixture calculators myself

Having said this you're absolutely correct about people associated with Vahaduo having agendas and thinking they know more about Kurd genetics than Dienekes, the Dodecad K12 creator AND Palisto, owner of the KurdishDNA blog, AND you, and Halgurd, and me. This statement alone proves how arrogant and agenda driven they are.

Just like you I posted in the Dodecad K12b thread on 3/26 that their Kurdish average on Vahaduo is wrong based on these evidences:

1- The Sorani and Feyli averages based on 13 Kurdish samples posted WITH screenshots at http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/...n-dodecad.html

2- The Dodecad K12 creator's average which was WILLFULLY not included in Vahaduo AGREED with the results posted on the KurdishDNA blog

3- My 5 Kurdish samples from Iraq AGREED with the Dodecad K12 creator's average AND the KurdishDNA blog's results.


Any person with half a brain would have said OK these evidences outweigh any averages based on a couple of samples sent in by random people. Instead by ignoring they actually proved that they are AGENDA driven. Case closed.

The best thing for Kurds to do is learn about these genetic tools yourself so that you can make your own and not rely on other idiots. Become independent like I learned to do !!

[Kyp]

1- The Sorani and Feyli averages based on 13 Kurdish samples posted WITH screenshots at http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/...n-dodecad.html

I'm the one that added this exact Feyli average (see my post on Page1). How can my kurdish average be wrong when it's literally the same that you post here as the correct one? All the other Kurdish averages are not done by me. Your attacks against me are totally baseless. Why don't you guys try to find the actual persons who created the kurdish averages you don't like, instead of insulting some random dudes?

It's really getting laughable by now. Do you even read the posts before attacking somebody?

Why do you guys keep dragging us into this laughable discussion?

[vbnetkhio]

1- The Sorani and Feyli averages based on 13 Kurdish samples posted WITH screenshots at http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/...n-dodecad.html

2- The Dodecad K12 creator's average which was WILLFULLY not included in Vahaduo AGREED with the results posted on the KurdishDNA blog

3- My 5 Kurdish samples from Iraq AGREED with the Dodecad K12 creator's average AND the KurdishDNA blog's results.

that's weird, the official Dodecad averages are calculator affected. They shouldn't be the same as what Kurds actually get in k12b on gedmatch.

[Zoro]

I'm the one that added this exact Feyli average (see my post on Page1). How can my kurdish average be wrong when it's literally the same that you post here as the correct one? All the other Kurdish averages are not done by me. Your attacks against me are totally baseless. Why don't you guys try to find the actual persons who created the kurdish averages you don't like, instead of insulting some random dudes?

It's really getting laughable by now. Do you even read the posts before attacking somebody?

Why do you guys keep dragging us into this laughable discussion?

I was generally agreeing with him without naming anyone but if you just updated the Kurdish-Feyli average based on the results on KurdishDNA blog that’s a step in the right direction. What about the Kurdish Sorani average. There are 10 Sorani screenshots on the Kurdish DNA blog. Don’t you think someone should update those as well?

[Altaylı]

Yes, I like the Indo-Europeans and celebrate R1a whenever I can. Please don't pick on me in this thread, the topic is entirely different and you have nothing to say about it.

If i am R1a then will you do a party for me?

[Zoro]

that's weird, the official Dodecad averages are calculator affected. They shouldn't be the same as what Kurds actually get in k12b on gedmatch.

You’re talking calculator effect. It varies from calculator to calculator based on how it was designed. In the case of Dodecad K12 the creator’s averages were consistent with the 13 sample screenshots at Kurdish DNA blog and my samples so that average should not have been removed

[Leto]

If i am R1a then will you do a party for me?

Yeah, I will be celebrating it, just don't say R1a is Turkic

[Altaylı]

Yeah, I will be celebrating it

just don't say R1a is Turkic

I will try but i can't promise :d