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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    So actually, you do not recognize anything what RCCh teaches. So how can you call yourself a catholic? I don;t get it.

    If it is so, and you condemn the pope, then do you belive that CCh is Babylon the Great?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Something more?
    Jesus is firstborn son of God, he came to Earth as perfect men to paid the debt, which take the first Adam.
    Opposite to him, second Adam stayed faithul to His Father to the end, showing that man is able to do it
    even if he his in deadly danger. He died for our sins to we could live with him and serve God forever.
    He resurrected on the third day and now he is the King of the Universe and he will come back soon to
    establish Heavenly Kingdom and judge the nations.

    Enough? Or are you excpecting me to write a whole essay?

    Getting to know something from you is like pulling teeth...
    Don't exaggerate. You asking, I answer. Don't except that I will know how looong anserws you want.
    For what do you want such precise answers? You looking sth to accusse me of heretism according to your views?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minwell View Post
    debt, which take the first Adam.
    What debt?

    Or are you excpecting me to write a whole essay?
    Yep.

    Don't exaggerate.
    I don't.

    For what do you want such precise answers?
    To precisely understand what you mean.

    You looking sth to accusse me of heretism according to your views?
    Am just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post

    How big part accordig to you?
    Rejecting trinity, idolatry, strange revelations, purgatory and all what is with it connected I think thaat I have in common with catholic church maybe 60-70 %

    Taking unto account, that you believe differently...
    Taking into account that early christians believe not quite as modern catholics that would be that catholic should not named themselves christians.

    Do you live in Vatican?
    You were asking about Catholic Church. Nonetheless, Church is not the great City, which Angel describes.
    One can considering of course Vatican as the hearth of the Church, which influeces world, but still it has
    not the impact on every nation what is the attribute of the Babyblon City and is not drinked with blood
    of saints.

    Isn;t Rome on the seven hills?
    Aaand? Many cities are builed on seven hills, f.e. Jerusalem.
    But seven heads also corresponds to seven kingdoms on which harlots sit.
    In the time when John was writing down Apocalypse there was the sixth kingdom,
    so Rome should have influences on the five previous kingdom.

    Did you hear about symbolism?
    Yes but what other can symbolised "And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
    if not the city where that had happened. Also here is clarified that this city has something from Sodom and Egypt so you have to find city which fit to it. One can guess, but Jerusalem is named such way in some places in the Bible so it would fit the best.

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    So do you belive that Old Covenant still applies?
    No, Jesus has fulfilled it, but that does not mean that all what it
    contained is useless now and cannot be implemented in some way
    in christian life.

    So no afterall?
    There is the difference between that sth was prohibited or commanded by God and that what wasn't.
    Poligamy wasn't neither prohibited nor commanded in the Old Covenant, so no matter what decision
    will be.

    But other you don't...
    Because the God in the OT prohibit idolatry and expressed clearly that it is evil.

    What if wives hate each other?
    What if childern will hate each other? Better no to have more than one child...

    Can't commandments change?
    Tricky question, but yes. As an exampla may I give case of eating meat. God allow Noah eat every animal, Israelites in the Old Covenatn could eat only
    meat from specified animals and in the NT we see that division between clean and unclean animals was abolished, but that at the same time does not
    mean that we cannot eat according to that division. Maybe it is more healthy as I read that meat of some animals is more junky than others.
    But what wasn't change it that case is prohibition of eating blood.

    One can ask what with such commandments as Don't murder, don't steal, don't commit adultery. Would they could change?
    Possibly as the Yahweh is the God, source of every Law and He decides what is good... but he is also just and merciful and
    he loves His creation so he certainly would not want nothing bad for it and aboves commandents will not change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    What debt?
    Because of the sin of Adam we're indebt to death (or as it apostole Paul states we're in slavery of death and sin), what simply means that we must die, as we got sinful
    nature from our forefather. Jesus paid for it his own perfect life, so we can have justification in his sacrafice if we have faith in the God. Faith confirmed by good doings.

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