Proto-Slavs were more northern than Ukrainian average?

[Jana]

When running K13 models for SE/central Europeans, for their Slavic input they prefer these 2 populations

-Ukrainian Belgorod (Ukrainians from city in southern Russia who are more northern than Ukrainian average)
-Belarusian Minsk (obviously more northern than UA average)

Before people were saying how Belarusians are Baltic admixed (which is true) and more northern than proto Slavs who would be closer to UA average but why do south Slavs prefer these 2?
We also have some Baltic like ydna (R1a Z92 for example)

This could mean invading Slavs were already Baltic admixed in the first place.

Eastern Balkans and Moldova prefer SW Russians as Slavic proxy too but that should be discarded because SW Russians have some Siberian admix like eastern Balkans (from different source though) and that's why they pick up them.

[Token]

I've heard rumours of Korchak Proto-Slavs being Lithuanian-like, but i'm not sure about their veracity.

[Jana]

I've heard rumours of Prague-Korchak Proto-Slavs being Lithuanian-like, but i'm not sure about their veracity.

Very intriguing.

[Leto]

"Ukrainian_Belgorod" and "SW_Russian" are almost the same, Belgorod is SW Russia. I would personally remove it and replace with something like "Ukrainian_Kharkov" (at least on Ukrainian territory). Davidski made it up basically.

[Token]

Very intriguing.

It is very annoying having to pan for Slavic proxies in random papers like we are doing now when literally half of Europe can't be modelled without Slavic admixture. I hope the rumor is true and we finally get some definitely Slavic samples soon.

[sevruk]

-Ukrainian Belgorod (Ukrainians from city in southern Russia who are more northern than Ukrainian average)

they are obviously just southern Russians from Belgorod

[Jana]

My result with using Lithuanians as early Slavic proxy

Target: Stearsolina
Distance: 2.8739% / 2.87387130

57.2 Slavic
42.8 Paleo_Balkan_&_Roman

[Jana]

Stears with using Lithuanians

Target: Stears
Distance: 0.7969% / 0.79687372

41.7 Slavic
32.7 Paleo_Balkan_&_Roman
17.1 Germanic
8.5 Turkic

Hun Prince

[vbnetkhio]

My result with using Lithuanians as early Slavic proxy

Target: Stearsolina
Distance: 2.8739% / 2.87387130

57.2 Slavic
42.8 Paleo_Balkan_&_Roman

even if proto-Slavs were like that, they could've been different by the time they reached the Balkans.
The average of AV1 and AV2 is our current best guess on what early South Slavs were like.

[Jana]

even if proto-Slavs were like that, they could've been different by the time they reached the Balkans.
The average of AV1 and AV2 is our current best guess on what early South Slavs were like.

What about pre-Slavic? Would you discard Thraco-Cimmerian because it has some Balto-Slavic like (Scythian) admixture?
I did, but maybe I am wrong about it.