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    Distance to: maestro
    3.09397802 Romania_Banat
    3.14397837 Romania_average
    3.18455648 Romania_Transylvania
    3.24104921 Montenegrin
    3.25107674 Bosniak_Sandzak
    3.25921770 Romania_Oltenia
    3.35959819 Moldova_South
    3.39560009 Romania_Moldavia_South
    3.74028074 Romania_Crisana
    3.75258578 Serb_south
    3.98538580 Romania_Wallachia
    4.03153817 Romania_Dobruja
    4.14946985 Bulgaria_Northwestern
    4.34293679 Bulgaria_Southwestern
    4.41575588 Romania_Muntenia
    4.54965933 Romania_Maramures
    4.83957643 Serb
    5.04645420 Bulgaria_average


    Target: maestro
    Distance: 2.3152% / 2.31520940
    52.8 Bosniak_Sandzak
    30.1 Moldova_North
    14.1 Albanian_Gheg
    2.6 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    0.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace

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    Quote Originally Posted by GalenStark View Post
    Target: Galenstark
    Distance: 5.7206% / 5.72057990

    45.1 Albanian_Gheg
    38.6 Greek_Western-Thrace
    16.3 Greek_Central_Macedonia

    Distance to: Galenstark
    6.10773280 Albanian
    6.25717988 Albanian_Tosk
    6.32990521 Albanian_Gheg

    6.56808191 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    6.79560152 Greek_Western-Thrace
    6.84480095 Greek_West
    7.07018387 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    7.26125506 Greek_Thessaly
    7.49855319 Greek
    7.74882572 Greek_Northeast
    7.93643497 Greek_West_Macedonia
    8.02242482 Greek_Peloponnese
    8.91442090 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    9.07471763 Greek_Athens
    9.28777153 Macedonian_South
    9.33109318 Macedonian
    9.42573074 Greek_Central
    9.50751282 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
    10.14341165 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    10.37290220 Macedonian_North
    11.40180687 Turk_Makedonya
    11.46450609 Bulgaria_Southeastern
    11.81080014 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
    11.91483529 Greek_Cyclades
    12.07920941 Greek_Ionia
    Quote Originally Posted by GalenStark View Post
    I ran it for you using the model in OP


    Target: Geni(albanian)
    Distance: 2.0108% / 2.01077932
    77.6 Greek_Western-Thrace
    8.9 Moldova_Jewish
    7.4 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    6.1 Greek_Andros_Island

    Distance to: Geni(albanian)
    2.73206881 Greek_Western-Thrace
    3.74196472 Albanian_Tosk
    4.50364297 Greek_West_Macedonia
    4.73483104 Greek_Thessaly
    5.06485933 Albanian
    5.07914363 Greek_West
    5.14836867 Greek_Northeast
    5.22414586 Greek
    5.41310447 Greek_Peloponnese
    5.83850152 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    5.96371528 Albanian_Gheg
    6.20573122 Greek_Athens
    6.27432068 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    6.45924144 Greek_Central
    7.97789446 Greek_Andros_Island
    7.98720852 Greek_Cyclades
    8.36008373 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
    8.59382918 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    8.77890654 Turk_Makedonya
    9.16083511 Macedonian_South
    9.22216352 Macedonian
    9.22679251 Greek_Ionia
    9.96547540 Turk_Crete
    10.23618581 Macedonian_North
    A quite funny observation, my Greek friend's non biological maternal gradfather many times is closer to and gets modeled better as Albanian than even many Albanian members posting in the various forums ...
    The part of Achaia where he is from is said to had Arvanites (though this info is not known to him or his parents who were born in the 1880s ) but at least a great grandfather of his was from somewhere in Central Greece so such tight fits seem unrealistic...
    Needless to say he is also very close to Torbeshes who were left out by the creator of the calc, in fact they are his closest population @2.53.

    Must be the mix of his ancestries, including them, that produce such results.

    Target: Chris_non_bio_grandpa
    Distance: 204.4017% / 2.04401727
    28.0 Albanian_Tosk
    18.4 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    18.2 Greek_Western-Thrace
    15.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    10.6 Albanian_Gheg
    9.8 Albanian

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    Distance to:	Chris_non_bio_grandpa
    2.62308978	Albanian_Tosk
    2.63376157	Albanian
    2.92068485	Greek_Central_Macedonia
    3.18212586	Greek_Thessaly
    3.28115833	Albanian_Gheg
    3.49276395	Greek_West
    3.98840820	Greek
    4.12305712	Greek_Northeast
    4.65094614	Greek_West_Macedonia
    4.79958332	Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    4.84231350	Greek_Peloponnese
    5.30785267	Greek_Western-Thrace
    5.52627361	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
    5.98417914	Macedonian_South
    6.06948103	Macedonian
    6.22207361	Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    6.82522527	Greek_Northern-Thrace
    6.99863558	Turk_Makedonya
    7.09939434	Macedonian_North
    7.19874989	Greek_Athens
    7.22240265	Greek_Central
    8.14391798	Bulgaria_Southeastern
    8.44784588	Moldova_South_Gagauzia
    9.14864471	Bulgaria_Southcentral
    9.52137070	Bulgaria_Northeastern

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    Target: PaterPatota
    Distance: 8.8185% / 8.81847319
    78.3 Greek_Caucasus
    13.8 Csángó-Ceangău
    7.9 Balkan_Gypsy


    Distance to: PaterPatota
    13.09325017 Greek_Trabzon
    13.22591774 Greek_Caucasus
    16.75794737 Greek_Cappadocian
    22.00583105 Greek_Chios
    23.36443665 Greek_Dodecanese
    23.91511447 Greek_Istanbul
    24.50487298 Greek_Crete
    25.05852949 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
    25.19574567 Greek_North_Aegean
    25.45250479 Greek_Cypriot
    25.80995157 Greek_Symi_Island
    26.23023828 Turk_Crete
    26.40919348 Greek_Andros_Island
    26.54272028 Greek_Ionia
    27.04765794 Greek_Cyclades
    28.22940842 Greek_Central
    28.75386583 Greek_Athens
    30.27191768 Greek_Peloponnese
    30.31592651 Moldova_Jewish
    30.52515520 Turk_Makedonya
    30.61052923 Greek_West_Macedonia
    30.64383788 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    30.69078526 Gypsy_Wallachia
    30.73380549 Greek
    31.08381251 Greek_Northeast
    Target: PP
    Distance: 1.6987% / 1.69870334 | ADC: 0.25x
    34.8 Kabardins
    33.0 Armenians
    19.0 Azeri_Dagestan
    4.8 Bulgarian_EastRumelia
    4.0 Abkhazian

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    A quite funny observation, my Greek friend's non biological maternal gradfather many times is closer to and gets modeled better as Albanian than even many Albanian members posting in the various forums ...
    The part of Achaia where he is from is said to had Arvanites (though this info is not known to him or his parents who were born in the 1880s ) but at least a great grandfather of his was from somewhere in Central Greece so such tight fits seem unrealistic...
    Needless to say he is also very close to Torbeshes who were left out by the creator of the calc, in fact they are his closest population @2.53.

    Must be the mix of his ancestries, including them, that produce such results.

    Target: Chris_non_bio_grandpa
    Distance: 204.4017% / 2.04401727
    28.0 Albanian_Tosk
    18.4 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    18.2 Greek_Western-Thrace
    15.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    10.6 Albanian_Gheg
    9.8 Albanian

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    Distance to:	Chris_non_bio_grandpa
    2.62308978	Albanian_Tosk
    2.63376157	Albanian
    2.92068485	Greek_Central_Macedonia
    3.18212586	Greek_Thessaly
    3.28115833	Albanian_Gheg
    3.49276395	Greek_West
    3.98840820	Greek
    4.12305712	Greek_Northeast
    4.65094614	Greek_West_Macedonia
    4.79958332	Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    4.84231350	Greek_Peloponnese
    5.30785267	Greek_Western-Thrace
    5.52627361	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
    5.98417914	Macedonian_South
    6.06948103	Macedonian
    6.22207361	Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    6.82522527	Greek_Northern-Thrace
    6.99863558	Turk_Makedonya
    7.09939434	Macedonian_North
    7.19874989	Greek_Athens
    7.22240265	Greek_Central
    8.14391798	Bulgaria_Southeastern
    8.44784588	Moldova_South_Gagauzia
    9.14864471	Bulgaria_Southcentral
    9.52137070	Bulgaria_Northeastern
    It's probably the calculator effect as some people have atypical components, and get superficial comparisons. My results are always changing the more samples are added. I wouldn't take it too seriously. At least until we gave a massive database.

    The Torbesh despite being Slavic Muslims are heavily Albanian admixed. Whether that's assimilation or marriage practices due to faith.

    The closest populations for Torbesh are all Albanian first. With distances of 1-3. Even Vlach/Aromanian and some Greek groups are closer to Torbesh than Macedonians and Bulgarians.

    The question is, how many Torbesh make up this sample group and where are they from? If it's like 3 samples from or near densely Albanian populated areas, then this sample group shouldn't be trusted until more samples are added. If its a decent size and spread, then they probably have quite a bit of genuine Albanian admixture.

    Distance to: Torbesh_average
    1.18368070 Albanian
    1.53876574 Albanian_Gheg
    2.60929109 Albanian_Tosk
    2.92065489 Greek_Thessaly
    3.72416434 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    4.24756401 Greek_Northeast
    4.31935180 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    4.61861451 Greek_West
    4.70124452 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
    4.72290165 Greek
    4.72612949 Greek_West_Macedonia
    4.75211532 Macedonian_South
    4.81767579 Macedonian
    5.67380824 Greek_Western-Thrace
    5.85347760 Greek_Peloponnese
    5.94439232 Macedonian_North
    7.06953322 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    7.12535613 Turk_Makedonya
    7.40867060 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    7.56877797 Bulgaria_Southeastern
    8.05995658 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
    8.28803354 Greek_Central
    8.28919176 Italian_Romagna
    8.30000602 Bulgaria_Southcentral
    8.33690590 Italian
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    I don't have that much Balkanic ancestry even by Hungarian standards, so this is what I get:

    Target: Dunai
    Distance: 4.6222% / 4.62222890
    100.0 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

    Distance to: Dunai
    4.62222890 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    5.37693221 Hungarian
    6.12456529 Slovenian
    6.52157190 Hungarian_Alföld
    6.84295258 Croat_North
    7.09174168 Hungarian_Northern
    7.71532242 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    7.73996770 Csángó-Ceangău
    8.20033536 Croat_West
    8.30510084 Croat
    9.79133290 Croat_East
    10.25001463 Croat_South
    11.56722957 Romania_Moldavia_North
    11.61755138 Bosniak
    11.86685721 Serb_north
    12.38713849 Moldova_North
    12.50059599 Serb_central
    12.65189314 Moldova_Centre
    12.72834632 Serb
    12.99629947 Moldova_average
    13.10487314 Romania_Maramures
    13.29378050 Romania_Crisana
    14.07360650 Moldova_Ukrainian
    14.64595166 Romania_Transylvania
    14.66714696 Romania_Moldavia_South
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    3. Greek & Balkan 7.3%
    4. Broadly European 6.5%
    5. Italian 4.4%
    6. Broadly Southern European 2.9%
    7. Central Asian 0.4%
    8. Broadly Central & South Asian 0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Target: Stearsolina
    Distance: 3.4175% / 3.41745633

    48.7 Moldova_North
    47.4 Slovenian
    3.9 Moldova_Ukrainian
    Distance to: Stearsolina

    4.43407262 Croat_East
    4.58758106 Croat
    4.64383462 Croat_North
    4.86671347 Hungarian_Alföld
    5.58499776 Moldova_North
    5.62725510 Hungarian
    5.68233227 Slovenian
    5.71636248 Hungarian_Northern
    6.01780691 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    6.12248316 Croat_South
    6.23436444 Croat_West
    6.46706270 Bosniak
    7.04628271 Csángó-Ceangău
    7.75973582 Serb_north
    8.14194080 Moldova_Centre
    8.30960890 Moldova_average
    8.36513000 Romania_Moldavia_North
    8.39834508 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    8.48905177 Székely
    8.51442306 Moldova_Ukrainian
    9.21777630 Serb
    9.42460079 Serb_central
    10.25991715 Romania_Maramures
    11.79489720 Romania_Crisana
    12.72590272 Romania_Moldavia_South

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    Target: Stears
    Distance: 2.3671% / 2.36705856

    73.0 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    17.2 Moldova_Ukrainian
    6.6 Greek_Caucasus
    3.2 Balkan_Gypsy

    Distance to: Stears

    4.13745091 Csángó-Ceangău
    4.91866852 Hungarian_Alföld
    5.02263875 Croat
    5.04164656 Hungarian
    5.11376574 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    5.23906480 Székely
    5.38356759 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    5.41378795 Croat_West
    5.43240278 Croat_East
    5.76661079 Croat_South
    5.98474728 Croat_North
    6.18610540 Bosniak
    6.29182009 Romania_Moldavia_North
    6.34904717 Moldova_North
    6.65686112 Moldova_Centre
    6.83100285 Hungarian_Northern
    6.93621655 Serb_north
    7.03108100 Slovenian
    7.08213245 Moldova_average
    7.96936635 Serb
    8.10604096 Serb_central
    8.44873363 Romania_Maramures
    9.54300791 Romania_Crisana
    10.28854703 Romania_Moldavia_South
    10.40983669 Romania_Transylvania

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    Target: Imre
    Distance: 2.8418% / 2.84182749
    76.3 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    23.7 Greek_Western-Thrace

    Distance to: Imre
    4.12997579 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    4.26739968 Székely
    5.71312524 Croat_West
    5.88588141 Csángó-Ceangău
    6.59590024 Romania_Crisana
    6.96587396 Serb_central
    7.06864202 Croat_South
    7.16940025 Hungarian
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    7.40285756 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    7.42697112 Romania_Moldavia_North
    7.43503867 Serb_north
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    7.49151520 Romania_Maramures
    7.50282613 Hungarian_Alföld
    8.14599288 Romania_Transylvania
    8.31090248 Romania_Moldavia_South
    8.34592116 Montenegrin
    8.70343610 Bosniak
    8.79307114 Croat_North
    8.94135337 Slovenian
    9.23220992 Moldova_Centre
    9.24959459 Romania_average
    9.32448926 Serb_south
    9.37051226 Moldova_average


    mother:
    Target: cb
    Distance: 3.8696% / 3.86964763
    36.1 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    33.2 Székely
    23.7 Slovenian
    7.0 Hungarian_Northern

    Distance to: cb
    4.52275359 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    4.64026939 Székely
    5.08032479 Hungarian
    5.11830050 Croat_West
    5.38289885 Hungarian_Alföld
    5.48719418 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    5.63228195 Csángó-Ceangău
    6.08251593 Croat
    6.66562075 Croat_North
    6.72953193 Slovenian
    6.81126273 Croat_South
    7.03634138 Hungarian_Northern
    7.71925515 Croat_East
    7.93572303 Romania_Moldavia_North
    8.02091017 Serb_north
    8.19735323 Serb_central
    8.28252377 Bosniak
    8.59477167 Serb
    8.98443098 Romania_Maramures
    9.10189541 Moldova_Centre
    9.15325625 Romania_Crisana
    9.36119116 Moldova_average
    9.93420857 Moldova_North
    10.60398982 Romania_Transylvania
    10.61911955 Romania_Moldavia_South
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    Distance to:	Imre        4.12997579	 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    

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    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 7.9333% / 7.93334142 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    96.9 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    3.1 Slovenian



    Distance to: Oszkar
    7.93366246 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    8.25083632 Slovenian
    8.82207459 Hungarian
    9.51402123 Croat_North
    9.59022419 Hungarian_Northern
    9.98206892 Hungarian_Alföld
    11.69236931 Croat
    11.72239310 Croat_West
    12.05339786 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    12.18825254 Csángó-Ceangău
    12.36786158 Székely
    13.14483929 Croat_East
    13.93004666 Croat_South
    15.36027018 Bosniak
    15.69374398 Romania_Moldavia_North
    15.69596445 Serb_north
    16.03256062 Moldova_Ukrainian
    16.16410839 Moldova_North
    16.29244917 Serb_central
    16.60049999 Serb
    16.75489779 Moldova_Centre
    17.04203333 Romania_Maramures
    17.05746757 Moldova_average
    17.22426776 Romania_Crisana
    18.60917247 Romania_Transylvania



    If I add Czech

    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 7.3797% / 7.37966539
    54.2 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    45.8 Czech
    Last edited by oszkar07; 04-10-2021 at 09:39 AM.
    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 1.7316% / 0.01731573 | ADC: 0.25x
    51.6 Hungarian:NA15203
    48.4 English:HG02215


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