Trying to understand how mutations work !

[Badr madani]

But if someone will tell them a lie: "I am Hilal migrant from Hijaz, living in Morocco" they'll do. So, better, if it is a truth, don't you think?

I guess i have no way to figure this out besides doing a Y-DNA test.

All i know for now is that all my family members from father and mother side speak arabic there is no sign of amazigh or tifinagh culture .

My fathers side is from a tribe that descends from banu hilal.

My mothers tribe descends from idrissid roots.

But all this information is taken in consideration according to old historians like ibnou khaldoun and family stories.

I will do it inchallah after Ramadan holy month.

[Rethel]

I guess i have no way to figure this out besides doing a Y-DNA test.

It is the final confirmation, even if you have genealogy, becasue this could be false.

All i know for now is that all my family members from father and mother side speak arabic there is no sign of amazigh or tifinagh culture.

Taking unto account, that 1000 years have passed, it is irrelevant.

My fathers side is from a tribe that descends from banu hilal. But all this information is taken in consideration according to old historians like ibnou khaldoun and family stories.

Then we have the initial factor.

So, now:
— collect biographical information about your family as far as it can be done;
— make genealogy at very minimum your singular line, but
— also you will need other realtives to be connected to you or at least to the family, as far as you can;
— make the Y test and
— couple of confirmation tests to your known the farest realted as possible agnates;
— and then, having right hg, compare it with other tribe members,
— and then with arabian samples.

This is the way as it should be done, if you want to be sure if you are Hilal, other Arab or a Berber.

My mothers tribe descends from idrissid roots.

Irrelevant.

[jfgh676]

I was told that by my father that i was husseini and that the family legend is that we descend directly from the prophet,i later learned that i have G haplogroup as my Y-DNA. It could not be possible since i am not J haplogroup. Many families claim idrissid heritage in morocco for search of prestige. As for being arabian,it depends. According to arab tradition,you are the ethnicity of your father,so according to that you are arab. Technically you are north african amazigh surely most of your dna is. It is your complete choice to choose what you identify as.

[Badr madani]

I was told that by my father that i was husseini and that the family legend is that we descend directly from the prophet,i later learned that i have G haplogroup as my Y-DNA. It could not be possible since i am not J haplogroup. Many families claim idrissid heritage in morocco for search of prestige. As for being arabian,it depends. According to arab tradition,you are the ethnicity of your father,so according to that you are arab. Technically you are north african amazigh surely most of your dna is. It is your complete choice to choose what you identify as.

Thanks my moroccan brother.

I became obsessed with this when i encountered a highly relougious person who acts like a pro muslim brotherhood persona. He made me doubt my origins with his workplace laws and silent treatment.

Today i still have some thoughts about my ethnicity but i think i just should let go and consider myself wald lblad as we say the local.

[reboun]

I don’t know about non-autosomal DNA but autosomal DNA mutates over time. My ancestors might be black Africans 50-100 thousand years ago but their autosomal DNA might have mutated by environmental conditions such as climate and nutrition in a long time.