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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Which Caucasian ethnicity has the biggest amount of steppe ancestry btw.?
    Daghestanis by far
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    In Dagestan that may not be actual Steppe though. They're very low in R1a/b. I think that may be due to their proximity to the Steppe as Dagestan is just south of Kalmykia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    In Dagestan that may not be actual Steppe though. They're very low in R1a/b. I think that may be due to their proximity to the Steppe as Dagestan is just south of Kalmykia.
    Well, Dagestan simply has an extreme founder effect which eventually probably phased out the R1 (Also, J1a is found in EHG but I doubt they got it from Steppe/EHG rather native source)
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    It's a difficult question because they are mostly made of something that was part of the steppe (CHG like), but they might lack entirely the other parts (more EHG). So are they half, or zero because they don't have the other half...In the same way central Asian have the ancestral ANE but they lack what Steppe people acquired later going West.

    It really comes down how we define the steppe exactly, as an addition of things or an indivisible component.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    This basically means that there were ancient carriers of genes for light eyes and hair other than Indo-Europeans.
    Georgians very rarely have light eyes let alone light hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Georgians very rarely have light eyes let alone light hair.
    Not really, statistically they have no fewer than Greeks who have a siezable amount of steppe/Indo-European ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Georgians very rarely have light eyes let alone light hair.
    Not true. At least 20% of them have light hair and/or eyes. Do you know the user Frowning Man? Guess what, he's actually lighter than you with your fuck ton of Nordo-Slavic ancestry.

    It's Armenians who are very rarely light (besides light skin).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Georgians very rarely have light eyes let alone light hair.
    Depends on who you are comparing with. If you compare with Russians, Germans and other northerners, then you are right, Georgians are rarely depigmented in comparison with them.

    If we compare with Ossetians, Dagestanis and Chechens, then no, they are not more depigmented than Georgians. This is confirmed by anthropological studies. Western Georgia (Imereti, Guria, Megrelia, Adjara, Svaneti) is one of the most light-eyed regions of the Caucasus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    North Caucasians generally have generally high North Euro admixture, highest amount of it can be found among Avars, Daghestanis(like Tabassarans or Dargins) or Chechens as far i know.
    Where can I find the spreadsheet? Somehow googling does not help. Can you provide me some link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Where can I find the spreadsheet? Somehow googling does not help. Can you provide me some link?
    Run them in Vahaduo if you'd like
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