Kyp's relative YDNA

[Altaylı]

Possibly some contact between Ugric and Turkic tribes in the steppe? When Hungarians separated from other Ugrics and left Siberian forests, they went to south around Caspian lake and had intense contact with Iranic and Turkic tribes. Than Turks who interacted with them migrated to Iran

Just a theory lol!

I think this y dna came from Oghur Turkics Oghuz Turks and Khazars were neighbors in medieval era probably some Oghur Turkic tribes from Khazars joined to Oghuzes Seljuks and invaded Iran and anatolia with other Oghuz Turkic Tribes

[Smitty]

Multiple tribes fusing into a bigger one is common in Iran. It's not to be confused with hardcore tribalism.

So the common surname is just by chance?

[Kyp]

So the common surname is just by chance?

Surnames are not that old in Iran. People (especially nomadic population) associated with a tribe not with a surname and tribes didn't always have to be patrilinear but could have been unions rather than a strict family structure.

[Kökény]

Same Y-DNA as my Székely relative.

[Kyp]

Same Y-DNA as my Székely relative.

wow interesting!

[Leto]

I bet that's Turkic.

Is he on GEDmatch?

[Leto]

I bet that's Turkic.

Is he on GEDmatch?

[Rethel]

So a family member from the same tribe (same subsubbranch and same village, same surname etc.) did a DNA test apparently and here is his YDNA result:

So, you are the first Apriticier, who listen to me, and did a first step, to do things, as they should be done!

So I guess someone had an NPE?

Not necesserly. It depends on what is their genealogy and/or what type of the surname.
For example two Smiths from the same village don't necesserly have to be related genealogically.
The Turkish surnames are a product of the twentieth century, taken out of thin air.

This is why I am repeating always on and on and on: test hg+n_times_confirmations+genealogy+bibliography.

One hg means nothing except paleotribe. One additional coincidental hg also doesn't give anything special.

[Smitty]

So, you are the first Apriticier, who listen to me, and did a first step, to do things, as they should be done!



Not necesserly. It depends on what is their genealogy and/or what type of the surname.
For example two Smiths from the same village don't necesserly have to be related genealogically.
The Turkish surnames are a product of the twentieth century, taken out of thin air.

This is why I am repeating always on and on and on: test hg+n_times_confirmations+genealogy+bibliography.

One hg means nothing except paleotribe. One additional coincidental hg also doesn't give anything special.

Yeah, when I first read his post, I assumed the common surname indicated a close relation. Obviously, if Iranians have only recently taken on surnames, that's not the case.

[Kyp]

Yeah, when I first read his post, I assumed the common surname indicated a close relation. Obviously, if Iranians have only recently taken on surnames, that's not the case.

No he is definetly closely related as he is from the same nomadic tribe that migrated through multiple regions together. Just his paternal origin is seemingly different, but those lineages being seperated would at the very least be 200 years ago, where our family migrated to our current location from the same place. I hope you understand what i'm saying. Additionally we were the only turkic speaking group in our region.

The name itself is a tribal name and only exists among us.

I bet that's Turkic.

Is he on GEDmatch?

No but I will contact him. Here's his 23andme results: