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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I have, although even it is hardly exceptional compared to London and the Midlands cities. In fact, I am sure once you take Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmo out of the equation, Sweden wouldn't come out looking so multiracial whatsoever.
    Fair point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Yes, except for violent takeover by faschist like power and mass deportations. In short, won't happen.
    Western Europe is lost as long as democracy lives there.
    Despite the ostensibly large support for the far right in France, many French people (across the political spectrum) are if anything more anti-American than anti-Black or anti-Arab, and panic more about the French language disappearing in favour of English than strictly demographic issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    Fair point.
    Do you mean the first or second sentence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Despite the ostensibly large support for the far right in France, many French people (across the political spectrum) are if anything more anti-American than anti-Black or anti-Arab, and panic more about the French language disappearing in favour of English than strictly demographic issues.
    Agree. I see future of western Europe as multiracial with old identities remaining, just what makes a "Swede" or "German" etc won't be the same as before.
    Civic nationalism more or less, like in USA. But without Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Agree. I see future of western Europe as multiracial with old identities remaining, just what makes a "Swede" or "German" etc won't be the same as before.
    Civic nationalism more or less, like in USA.
    Well looking at it dispassionately and calmly: is that really such a bad thing? As we've discussed before, Americans and French are both among the most (overtly) patriotic people on Earth, whatever their ethnic make-ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Do you mean the first or second sentence?
    Second.

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    Those numbers doesn't seem to be correct but who knows. Why is BG 30%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Despite the ostensibly large support for the far right in France, many French people (across the political spectrum) are if anything more anti-American than anti-Black or anti-Arab, and panic more about the French language disappearing in favour of English than strictly demographic issues.
    It is the whole ethos of the republic, which have become sort of embedded into the collective psyche. They were the first European power to renounce racialism, slavery, colonialism, etc. etc. despite the attempts of royalists and other kinds of contras to roll back the ideological wave unleashed in 1789. We are just witnessing its logical endpoint here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    Those numbers doesn't seem to be correct but who knows. Why is BG 30%?
    Gypsies and to a lesser extent Pomaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Gypsies and to a lesser extent Pomaks.
    I don't think so. They are muslim Bulgarians. Bulgaria however has Turkish minority.

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