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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    I bet even Aino would've turned into an äkäinen akka in a few years. This is the true path of the wise man (https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7078):
    Tahi jos tietäisin vähäsen, arvoaisin aikanani,
    niin en naisi ensinkänä, nykyisiä tyttölöitä;
    ne on neitona soriat, koriat ison kotona,
    äsken akkana äkäiset, vihaiset vihittyänsä.
    Mikäs on poikana eleä, mikäs olla naimatonna? -
    Potra on poikana eleä, naasti olla naimatonna;
    ei oo naista naukumassa, eikä lasta itkemässä,
    akka ei arttia vetäne, laps' ei leipeä anone.
    Huoleton hevoton poika, aivan huoleton akaton:
    piä ei piiskasta muretta, kanna ei huolta kannuksesta.

    I hate to read Kalevala . It is one kind of old Finnish and even written weirdly, like poetry.

    Now that part: ''Huoleton hevoton poika, aivan huoleton akaton'' .... Hevoton here means Hevoseton, right? Ok, I have heard this: ''Huoleton hevosenton mies = mustalainen''. So small change in Finns ideas .... before time of Swedes and after time of Swedes?

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    I got married in 2010 (at 23) after returning from the army and restoring at the university. At the same time, when sufficient stability in career began (myself) and his own home (not without the help of relatives).
    My son will soon be 3 years old (on New Year's holidays). I regret that we did not manage to give birth to him earlier, for example when we were 18-20 years old due to various reasons, now life would be more fun - I could be teaching him programming when my brain still isn't rusty, we could play football, go outdoors together etc.
    But now I have a lot more free time, I will try to prevent the another "child of the Internet" who growing up without parental attention. Ideally - I want to send him to a military school, my father and grandfather are military.
    As for my wife, she is a little younger than me and from a fairly religious family - she worked for six months in her life and lacks the "predatory" skills of survival among modern bitcheswomen. I think that I am more fortunate with her than ever (and with her parents).
    In short, I will not give an answer about the optimal age for a wedding - there are too many factors influencing this. The earlier the better, avoid "free" love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    I hate to read Kalevala . It is one kind of old Finnish and even written weirdly, like poetry.

    Now that part: ''Huoleton hevoton poika, aivan huoleton akaton'' .... Hevoton here means Hevoseton, right? Ok, I have heard this: ''Huoleton hevosenton mies = mustalainen''. So small change in Finns ideas .... before time of Swedes and after time of Swedes?
    That's from Kanteletar and not Kalevala.

    "A man without a horse is a man without woes" just means that it's easier to live without material possessions.

    Actually there is also a saying that a man regrets everything except marrying at a young age:

    Voi minua mieskulua, kun en nainut naiskuluista,
    nainut nuorella iällä, ottanut elon ajalla,
    ennen elon puuttumista, väkeni vähenemistä! -
    Kaikkiahan mies katuvi, vaan ei nuorra naimistansa,
    lassa lapsen saamistansa, pienenä perehtimistä.

    Nain ma vasta vanhoillani, otin onneni lopulla;
    vanha sai valitun piian, ilkiän ikä kulunut.

    In another poem, the male singer laments that he was traveling when others got married, so when he came back to his home, all the best girls were already taken:

    Viikon viivyin Wiipurissa, kauan suolakaupungissa;
    kun tulin omille maille, jo oli vietynä omani,
    naituna parahat piiat, valittuna valkeimmat,
    kirkkahimmat kihlattuna, soreimmat suorittuna,
    minulle herjat heitettynä, aivan kehnot annettuna,
    kierosilmät kenkättynä, vihaisimmat viskattuna.

    Mitäs mun poloisen poian - täytyi runpuhun ruveta,
    Käsin käyä tähtehille; saaha suolta suopetäjä,
    leppäpökkelö lehosta, tervaskanto kankahalta,
    kun en tammea tavannut, osannut omenapuuta.

    In another song, a girl sings that she wants to get married at a young age:

    Kuku kultainen käkönen, hopiainen hoilattele,
    rinta hieta helkyttele, papurinta paukuttele,
    saksan mansikka sanele, viron puola poimettele:
    Käynkö viikon villapäänä, kauan tukka tuurukkana,
    hivuskassan kantajana, liemingän levittäjänä,
    sitojana silkkinauhan, päärihman ripustajana -
    käynkö vuoen; käynkö kaksi, käynkö vuotta viisi, kuusi,
    vai kaiken kaheksan vuotta, ympäri yheksän vuotta,
    vai käyn kaikenki ikäni, tahi ei täyttä tätä vuotta.

    Kuku, kuku kultarinta, helskäse hopiarinta,
    kuku kullat kulmilleni, hopiaiset helmoilleni,
    kuku kuusin kultavöitä, seitsemin sinihamoja,
    tälle tyynelle tytölle, tälle kainulle kanalle -
    neittä nuorra naitavaksi, vihantana vietäväksi,
    punaposkelle pojalle, sorialle sulhaselle.

    And in a lullaby, a mother wishes that her daughter would get married at a young age:

    Emo tuuti tyttöänsä, liekutteli lempiänsä,
    toivoi tuuvitellessansa, lauloi liekutellessansa:
    "Kun tytär hyvä tulisi; kasvaisi emon kananen,
    sitte nuorra naita'isi, vihantana vietä'isi,
    kylässä kyselemättä, naapurissa lausumatta;
    sitte ei kontit korkeneisi, eikä laavat lankiaisi,
    konttiselät kollehtisi, väskyselät vällehtisi."

    "Kun tytär paha tulevi, tytär tuhma turmeltuvi;
    eip' on nuorra naiakana, vihantana vieä'känä,
    vaan ne kontit korkenevat, sekä laavat lankiavat
    konttiselät kollehtivi, väskyselät vällehtivi."

    (You no longer count as someone who can get married at a young age, because you're basically a borderline old maid.)

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    Love and passion are fleeting. Marriage is, in reality, usually boring.

    I think ppl should enjoy their 20s. Casual sex is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    As being in that age range, if you do not mind ... I would ask few question?

    * How you see the time to get children ... same or different?
    Few years later I'd say, after one of you (or both) get some sort of financial stability.

    * With University studies, did you mainly mean guys or both genders?
    Both, if they want to. I'd want to, but it depends on individual. And of course, not everyone needs to attend University. That should be minority of people actually.

    I graduated last autumn (half year delay because of COVID) and started my first permanent work almost immediately (which corresponds my education ). Naturally I have been working summer times here and there, but those are another matter.

    If I opposite would have started to make kids, staying home ... lets say next 5 to 10 years ... I would not be seen very desirable academic candidate to search some vacancy at age of 30 (with no real working experiences in CV). True at least here (there are more than enough applications for every open vacancy). If we think jobs done with hands more than with brains, the same might not count, but you talked about University studies.

    Here, if I would make child now, I'm also allowed to all the benefits, incl. maternity leave with salary/compensation.

    Yes, countries might differ, and over all I have nothing against to get marry at age 22 - 23 as such. Just wanting to add those comments above.
    Well, it all makes sense. I just think that would be ideal, not that's necessarily most convenient.

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    22-23 so you can have a good amount of kids with comfortable spacing in-between. My parents married at 22 and had 7 kids like that and it worked out pretty well for them. Maybe it's just my religious upbringing but I see very little point in marriage if you're not intending to have kids.

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    literally at any age, ideally when you find the person you can actually picture yourself spending the rest of your life with

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