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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    I think this thread is being a touch misunderstood. It’s theme is “Who’s R1a here?”
    You cannot expect everyone to have the J2 intellect...
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    The Age of R1 is over... The time of the J2, has come (again)
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    Mine is also R1a1a1b1a2b3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Maybe you are this Saqlabi
    Maybe, but as far as I know I have not any Valencian or Balearic ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    You cannot expect everyone to have the J2 intellect...
    That was said by someone J2 with Ydna in a thread on R1a...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Maybe, but as far as I know I have not any Valencian or Balearic ancestry.
    You have pedegree to XIth century?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    You have pedegree to XIth century?
    Obviously no and less in my paternal line.

    Nor do I think you or I know anyone who knows with complete certainty all their ancestors until the eleventh century in his paternal line who are not from any royal family or noblemen of fairly high rank.

    And even these ones cannot assure that in those 30-40 generations, there has been no interruption of that line due to illegitimate children, adoptions of children from other marriages who are given the last name of his new father, or adoptions not documented as such.

    I have a lot of hope that BIG Y can clarify something more for me on this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Obviously no and less in my paternal line.
    So, the fact, that quite recenty you have no valencian or balearian known ancestors means nothing if we talk about XIth century.
    I wanted only to signal a possibility, that you can be a descendant of some slavic guy, similarly as this emir, or maybe even him

    Nor do I think you or I know anyone who knows with complete certainty all their ancestors until the eleventh century in his paternal line who are not from any royal family or noblemen of fairly high rank.
    In some regions it is possible, but rarely.

    And even these ones cannot assure that in those 30-40 generations, there has been no interruption of that line due to illegitimate children, adoptions of children from other marriages who are given the last name of his new father, or adoptions not documented as such.
    And this is why hg testing is usefull – allows to check if legal situation is really legit.

    I have a lot of hope that BIG Y can clarify something more for me on this matter.
    Maybe, maybe, very maybe.

    First genealogy and bibliography, then hg (not BIG at the beginning,
    Y37 is enough) then confirmation of hg, and the BIG at the very end.
    If you are starting from the end, it will give you almost nothing – not
    too much more, than this what you allready know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    So, the fact, that quite recenty you have no Valencian or balearian known nacestors means nothing if we talk about XIth century.
    I wanted only to signal a possibility, that you can be a descendant of some slavic guy, similarly as this emir, or maybe even him
    I´ve told "maybe", because I cannot know it, and in any case, genealogic research with just 100-200 years back is more accurate, easier to know and more reliable than the one that goes back 1000 years ago, an this is an idea easily understood by anyone.



    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    In some regions in it is possible, but rarely.
    That´s what I´ve said than it is more difficult in my paternal side, because in the area where my paternal side comes from, has been several massive destruction of parish and municipal historical records in various wars, especially two very massive ones, one by the French in the Napoleonic invasion and the other in the civil war by the republican side.



    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    And this is why hg testing is usefull – allows to check if legal situation is really legit.
    Yeah, agree, in my particular case, I trust FTDNA and its BIG Y more than genealogy.

    The ideal would be to be able to support genealogy with genetics, and within genetics, be based especially on Ydna (in this particular case) and secondarily on autosomal results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Maybe, maybe, very maybe.
    Maybe always, and in these issues of genetics and genealogy, more maybe than in other issues. Because we cannot be certain in most cases.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    First genealogy and bibliography, then hg (not BIG at the first) then confirmation of hg, and the BIG at the very end.
    If you started from the end, it will gives you almost nothing, than you allready know.
    In each particular case, I would apply the priorities necessary for that particular case, I would not make general rules regarding priorities.

    For each specific problem, use specific tools, used in a specific way.

    Edit:Ortography.
    Last edited by gixajo; 04-15-2021 at 02:33 PM.

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    Hi, I used the Marley y dna predictor, it was written R1a1a1 and r1a-m417.
    My father is sicilian, wtf? Hahahahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Hi, I used the Marley y dna predictor, it was written R1a1a1 and r1a-m417.
    My father is sicilian, wtf? Hahahahahah
    Weren't you female when you signed up?

    We had a prominent half-Sicilian member here who was also R1a.

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