Some people say "races are socially constructed but ethnicities are not" but...

[Demis]

I agree, I am aware of the fact that taxonomy is a pseudoscience and a Nordic Norwegian is genetically closer to an Alpine Norwegian than a Nordic Northern Italian. However, I still culture is more important in some ethnic groups than genetic clusters are.

Kind of. Genetic clusters don't always mean shared ancestry, though. And I do agree, culture is more important when we are comparing two nations. But we should also consider the fact that within the same ethnicity, people have both genetic and cultural closeness with each other. Thus ethnicities are not just social constructs but also a biological reality.

Cypriots are culturally closer to Greeks than Lebanese, while genetically, it is the other way around. What matters is culture, at least in my opinion. But ethnic (Anatolian) Turks are both culturally and genetically closer to each other than they are closer to any different ethnicities.

[Alexandro]

Kind of. Genetic clusters don't always mean shared ancestry, though. And I do agree, culture is more important when we are comparing two nations. But we should also consider the fact that within the same ethnicity, people have both genetic and cultural closeness with each other. Thus ethnicities are not just social constructs but also a biological reality.

Cypriots are culturally closer to Greeks than Lebanese, while genetically, it is the other way around. What matters is culture, at least in my opinion. But ethnic (Anatolian) Turks are both culturally and genetically closer to each other than they are closer to any different ethnicities.

Good point.

[reboun]

Well you Turks are heavilly mixed nationality.

Yes, we might have ancestry from Balkans, Central Asia, Southwest Asia, Northwest Asia, and even Northeast Europe and North Asia.

[Altaylı]

Yes, we might have ancestry from Balkans, Central Asia, Southwest Asia, Northwest Asia, and even Northeast Europe and North Asia.

This is one of the reasons of why Turkey is beautiful place i love Turkey you can find european influenced person and East asian-Siberian influenced person at the same time

[reboun]

This is one of the reasons of why Turkey is beautiful place i love Turkey you can find european influenced person and East asian-Siberian influenced person at the same time

Exactly

[Rafael Passoni]

And I do agree, culture is more important when we are comparing two nations. But we should also consider the fact that within the same ethnicity, people have both genetic and cultural closeness with each other. Thus ethnicities are not just social constructs but also a biological reality.

I agree 100%.

[princeton90]

You are again confusing identity with ethnicity. Yes, culture and identity are important when correctly determining one's ethnic origin but I don't think those two are enough. Otherwise, any subset of human-beings could have been an "ethnicity" such as being a "Samsung user" or being an "Apple user" but this time, the term "ethnicity" would become very meaningless.

[Mortimer]

I agree with Demis that people of the same ethnicity share genetical closeness even taxonomical closeness like some phenotypes are more common for some certain ethnicities we even guess ethnicity by pictures here and often we are correct so ethnicities are also a biological reality but including other factors like culture language etc contributes too that is how biologically you are European but you are turk your ancestors assimilated and were absorbed and accepted now you are a turk. But that doesn't mean it is the norm that a turk is outside the turk cluster rather the exception to the rules

[reboun]

I agree with Demis that people of the same ethnicity share genetical closeness even taxonomical closeness like some phenotypes are more common for some certain ethnicities we even guess ethnicity by pictures here and often we are correct so ethnicities are also a biological reality but including other factors like culture language etc contributes too that is how biologically you are European but you are turk your ancestors assimilated and were absorbed and accepted now you are a turk. But that doesn't mean it is the norm that a turk is outside the turk cluster rather the exception to the rules

Not being assimilated but let us say it is because of cultural closeness of Turks and Bosnians.

[Erronkari]

I have a Peruvian friend of 3rd generation Japanese descent and he identifies hinself as Japanese and nowadays he and his parents live in Japan and they are well integrated there on the last 20 years.
However I have a cousin son of Spaniards that was born in France and identifies hinself as French.

Interesting how any case is different.
In primary school I had a classmate called Tomishiro Matsumoto.
His father was born here and his mother in Perú, but his 4 grandparents born in Japan.
Interestingly, and curiously he rejected all japanese cultural aspects.
He didn't speak japanese and didn't like japanese food nor was interested to go to Japan... etc., etc.
Probably is an atypical case.. IDK...