Who is more Germanic between Swiss Germans and Scots?

[Charlemagne7]

I am talking genetically and phenotypically, I am NOT taking into account culture because then it would be an easy win for Swiss Germans.

[TheMaestro]

Swiss

[Charlemagne7]

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[Token]

Swiss Germans are ~50% Early Germanic, Scots not even close to that. Phenotypically Scots are closer by miles (the Swiss underwent a dramatic process of brachycephalization in the last seven centuries).

[JamesBond007]

Swiss Germans are ~50% Early Germanic, Scots not even close to that. Phenotypically Scots are closer by miles (the Swiss underwent a dramatic process of brachycephalization in the last seven centuries).

What do you mean Germany medieval ? That is disingenous as I think it has an eastern Lithuanian pull or whatnot if I recall correctly you can model it with partial eastern stuff.

[JamesBond007]

I am talking genetically and phenotypically, I am NOT taking into account culture because then it would be an easy win for Swiss Germans.

Scots are not as homogeneous as the Swiss Germans but the bulk of Scots are probably in the lowlands which has Danish/Norse-Norwegian and possible Flemish etc...

[Token]

What do you mean Germany medieval ? That is disingenous as I think it has an eastern Lithuanian pull or whatnot if I recall correctly you can model it with partial eastern stuff.

If this is not Germanic enough to you, i don't know what is.

Distance to:	DEU_MA
0.01472762	Dutch
0.01686220	Danish
0.01920983	Orcadian
0.01937021	Scottish
0.02063324	English
0.02174421	Swedish
0.02183551	Icelandic
0.02249166	Afrikaner
0.02261533	Welsh
0.02272190	English_Cornwall
0.02318195	German
0.02353435	Shetlandic
0.02391394	Irish
0.02534301	Norwegian
0.02755452	French_Brittany
0.02935783	German_East
0.03402171	Belgian
0.03507051	Austrian
0.03517120	Czech
0.03634918	French_Seine-Maritime
0.03796245	French_Nord
0.03885569	Hungarian
0.03887383	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03928134	French_Alsace
0.04319937	Swiss_German

[Charlemagne7]

Swiss Germans are ~50% Early Germanic, Scots not even close to that. Phenotypically Scots are closer by miles (the Swiss underwent a dramatic process of brachycephalization in the last seven centuries).

50? Holy shit I seriously underestimated the Germanicness of Swiss Germans then.

How much Germanic DNA would you say modern Scots have then? Just to compare.

[gixajo]

Swiss Germans are ~50% Early Germanic, Scots not even close to that. Phenotypically Scots are closer by miles (the Swiss underwent a dramatic process of brachycephalization in the last seven centuries).

Could you please show us a model in which we can see this?

And where do you consider is the border between Celts and Germanics? What is exactly what separates them genetically?

Thanks.

[Token]

50? Holy shit I seriously underestimated the Germanicness of Swiss Germans then.

How much Germanic DNA would you say modern Scots have then? Just to compare.

It is much more difficult to quantify in the case of the Scots because the pre-Anglo Saxon and pre-Viking population of Scotland was very similar to Germanics., but estimates doesn't exceeds 20%.