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    I have done a research for personal curiosity about the ethnic background of all the people who were the heads of state in Hungary, and I would like to share the data with you all. These results are not based on deep ancestry, but only took into account the ethnic background of the grandparents of a particular individual. There might be some small mistakes here and there, but overall I still believe this is pretty close to reality if we take into consideration only recent ethnic background for the given individual.

    I will begin with the monarchs of Hungary:

    House of Árpád
    Stephen I, King (997-1038): 75% Hungarian, 25% Pecheneg
    Peter, King (1038-1041, 1044-1046): 50% Italian, 25% Hungarian, 25% Pecheneg
    Samuel Aba, King (1041-1044): 100% Khazar
    Andrew I, King (1046-1060): 75% Hungarian, 25% Bulgarian
    Béla I, King (1060-1063): 75% Hungarian, 25% Bulgarian
    Solomon, King (1063-1074): 25% Bulgarian, 25% Hungarian, 25% Russian, 25% Swedish
    Géza I, King (1074-1077): 25% Bulgarian, 25% Hungarian, 25% German, 25% Polish
    Ladislaus I, King (1077-1095): 25% Bulgarian, 25% Hungarian, 25% German, 25% Polish
    Coloman, King (1095-1116): 25% Dutch, 25% Flemish, 25% Hungarian, 25% Polish
    Stephen II, King (1116-1131): 50% Norman, 25% Flemish, 25% Hungarian
    Béla II, King (1131-1141): 25% Czech, 25% Flemish, 25% Hungarian, 25% Russian
    Géza II, King (1131-1162): 25% Byzantine, 25% Hungarian, 25% Russian, 25% Serb
    Stephen III, King (1162-1172): 50% Russian, 25% Hungarian, 25% Serb
    Ladislaus II, King (1162-1163): 25% Byzantine, 25% Hungarian, 25% Russian, 25% Serb
    Stephen IV, King (1163-1165): 25% Byzantine, 25% Hungarian, 25% Russian, 25% Serb
    Béla III, King (1172-1196): 50% Russian, 25% Hungarian, 25% Serb
    Emeric, King (1196-1204): 50% French, 25% Hungarian, 25% Russian
    Ladislaus III, King (1204-1205): 50% Spanish, 25% French, 25% Hungarian
    Andrew II, King (1205-1235): 50% French, 25% Hungarian, 25% Russian
    Béla IV, King (1235-1270): 25% Bavarian, 25% German, 25% French, 25% Hungarian
    Stephen V, King (1270-1272): 50% Byzantine, 25% Bavarian, 25% Hungarian
    Ladislaus IV, King (1272-1290): 50% Cuman, 25% Byzantine, 25% Hungarian
    Andrew III, King (1290-1301): 75% Italian, 25% Hungarian

    House of Přemyslid
    Wenceslaus, King (1301-1305): 50% German, 25% Czech, 25% Russian

    House of Wittelsbach
    Otto, King (1305-1307): 50% Bavarian, 25% Byzantine, 25% Hungarian

    House of Anjou
    Charles I, King (1308-1342): 50% German, 25% Hungarian, 25% Italian
    Louis I, King (1342-1382): 50% Polish, 25% German, 25% Italian
    Mary, Queen (1382-1385, 1386-1395): 50% Polish, 25% Bosnian, 25% Hungarian
    Charles II, King (1385-1386): 75% Italian, 25% French

    House of Luxembourg
    Sigismund, King (1387-1437): 50% Polish, 25% Czech, 25% German

    House of Habsburg
    Albert, King (1437-1439): 50% Bavarian, 25% Austrian, 25% Polish
    Ladislaus V, King (1444-1457): 50% Austrian, 25% Bavarian, 25% German
    Ferdinand I, King (1526-1564): 50% Spanish, 25% Austrian, 25% French
    Maximilian, King (1563-1576): 25% Austrian, 25% French, 25% Polish, 25% Spanish
    Rudolf, King (1572-1608): 50% Austrian, 25% Polish, 25% Portuguese
    Matthias II, King (1608-1618): 50% Austrian, 25% Polish, 25% Portuguese
    Ferdinant II, King (1618-1637): 50% Austrian, 25% Bavarian, 25% Polish
    Ferdinand III, King (1625-1657): 50% Bavarian, 25% Austrian, 25% French
    Ferdinand IV, King (1647-1654): 50% Austrian, 25% Bavarian, 25% Spanish
    Leopold I, King (1657-1705): 50% Austrian, 25% Bavarian, 25% Spanish
    Joseph I, King (1687-1711): 50% German, 25% Austrian, 25% Spanish
    Charles III, King (1711-1740): 50% German, 25% Austrian, 25% Spanish
    Maria Theresa, Queen (1740-1780): 50% German, 25% Austrian, 25% Bavarian

    House of Jagiellon
    Vladislaus I, King (1440-1444): 50% Lithuanian, 50% Russian
    Vladislaus II, King (1490-1516): 50% Lithuanian, 50% Austrian
    Louis II, King (1516-1526): 50% French, 25% Austrian, 25% Lithuanian

    House of Hunyadi
    Matthias Corvinus, King (1458-1490): 50% Hungarian, 50% Romanian

    House of Zápolya
    John Zápolya I, King (1526-1540): 50% Hungarian, 50% Polish
    John Zápolya II, King (1540-1571): 50% Polish, 25% Hungarian, 25% Italian

    House of Habsburg-Lorraine
    Joseph II, King (1780-1790): 50% Austrian, 25% French, 25% German
    Leopold II, King (1790-1792): 50% Austrian, 25% French, 25% German
    Francis I, King (1792-1835): 50% Austrian, 25% German, 25% Spanish
    Ferdinand V, King (1830-1848): 50% Austrian, 50% Spanish
    Franz Joseph I, King (1848-1916): 50% German, 25% Austrian, 25% Spanish
    Charles IV, King (1916-1918): 50% Austrian, 25% German, 25% Portuguese
    1. Eastern Europe 44.8%
    2. French & German 33.6%
    3. Greek & Balkan 7.3%
    4. Broadly European 6.5%
    5. Italian 4.4%
    6. Broadly Southern European 2.9%
    7. Central Asian 0.4%
    8. Broadly Central & South Asian 0.1%

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    Now I will post the various other heads of state who ruled Hungary (or what was left of it), but weren't officially monarchs:

    Grand Princes
    Álmos, Grand Prince (850-895): Hungarian
    Árpád, Grand Prince (895-907): Hungarian
    Zolta, Grand Prince (907-947): Hungarian
    Falicsi, Grand Prince (947-955): Hungarian
    Taksony, Grand Prince (955-972): Hungarian
    Géza, Grand Prince (972-997): 50% Hungarian, 50% Pecheneg

    Regents
    John Hunyadi, Regent (1446-1453): Romanian
    Michael Szilágyi, Regent (1458): Hungarian
    Alvise Gritti, Regent (1530-1534): Italian
    Isabella Jagiellon, Regent (1540-1551, 1556-1559): 50% Italian, 25% Austrian, 25% Lithuanian
    Johann Caspar von Ampringen, Regent (1673-1679): German
    Artúr Görgei, Dictator (1849): Hungarian
    Joseph August of Austria, Regent (1919): 50% Austrian, 25% French, 25% German
    Miklós Horthy, Regent (1920-1944): Hungarian

    Princes of Transylvania
    Stephen Báthory, Prince (1571-1586): Hungarian
    Sigismund Báthory, Prince (1586-1599, 1601-1602): Hungarian
    Andrew Báthory, Prince (1599): Hungarian
    Michael the Brave, Prince (1599-1600): Romanian
    Moses Székely, Prince (1603): Hungarian
    Stephen Bocskai, Prince (1605-1606): Hungarian
    Sigismund Rákóczi, Prince (1607-1608): Hungarian
    Gabriel Báthory, Prince (1608-1613): Hungarian
    Gabriel Bethlen, Prince (1613-1629): Hungarian
    Catherine of Brandenburg, Princess (1629-1630): German
    Stephen Bethlen, Prince (1630): Hungarian
    George I Rákóczi, Prince (1630-1648): Hungarian
    George II Rákóczi, Prince (1648-1660): Hungarian
    Francis Rhédey, Prince (1657-1658): Hungarian
    Ákos Barcsay, Prince (1658-1660): Hungarian
    John Kemény, Prince (1661-1662): Hungarian
    Michael I Apafi, Prince (1661-1690): Hungarian
    Emeric Thököly, Prince (1682-1685, 1690): Hungarian
    Francis II Rákóczi, Prince (1704-1711): 50% Croat, 50% Hungarian

    General Secretaries
    Mátyás Rákosi, General Secretary (1948-1956): Jewish
    Ernő Gerő, General Secretary (1956): Jewish
    János Kádár, General Secretary (1956-1988): 50% German, 25% Hungarian, 25% Slovak
    Károly Grósz, General Secretary (1988-1989): Hungarian
    Rezső Nyers, General Secretary (1989): Hungarian
    1. Eastern Europe 44.8%
    2. French & German 33.6%
    3. Greek & Balkan 7.3%
    4. Broadly European 6.5%
    5. Italian 4.4%
    6. Broadly Southern European 2.9%
    7. Central Asian 0.4%
    8. Broadly Central & South Asian 0.1%

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    And lastly the list of prime ministers, since this position always empowered its holder to govern the country, almost independently from the will of the king or as the sole highest political position in the country:

    Prime Ministers
    Lajos Batthyány, Prime Minister (1848): Hungarian
    Lajos Kossuth, Prime Minister (1848-1849): 50% German, 25% Hungarian, 25% Slovak
    Bertalan Szemere, Prime Minister (1849): Hungarian
    Gyula Andrássy, Prime Minister (1867-1871): Hungarian
    Menyhért Lónyay, Prime Minister (1871-1872): Hungarian
    József Szlávy, Prime Minister (1872-1874): Hungarian
    István Bittó, Prime Minister (1874-1875): Hungarian
    Béla Wenckheim, Prime Minister (1875): 75% Hungarian, 25% Austrian
    Kálmán Tisza, Prime Minister (1875-1890): Hungarian
    Gyula Szapáry, Prime Minister (1890-1892): Hungarian
    Sándor Wekerle, Prime Minister (1892-1895, 1906-1910, 1917-1918): 50% German, 50% Hungarian
    Dezső Bánffy, Prime Minister (1895-1899): Hungarian
    Kálmán Széll, Prime Minister (1899-1903): Hungarian
    Károly Khuen-Héderváry, Prime Minister (1903, 1910-1912): 50% Austrian, 50% Hungarian
    István Tisza, Prime Minister (1903-1905, 1913-1917): 50% German, 50% Hungarian
    Géza Fejérváry, Prime Minister (1905-1906): Hungarian
    László Lukács, Prime Minister (1912-1913): Armenian
    Móric Esterházy, Prime Minister (1917): 50% Austrian, 50% Hungarian
    Mihály Károlyi, Prime Minister (1918-1919): Hungarian
    Sándor Garbai, Prime Minister (1919): Hungarian
    Gyula Károlyi, Prime Minister (1919, 1931-1932): 75% Hungarian, 25% German
    Dezső Pattantyús-Ábrahám, Prime Minister (1919): Hungarian
    Gyula Peidl, Prime Minister (1919): Hungarian
    István Friedrich, Prime Minister (1919): German
    Károly Huszár, Prime Minister (1919-1920): Austrian
    Sándor Simonyi-Semadam, Prime Minister (1920): Hungarian
    Pál Teleki, Prime Minister (1920-1921, 1939-1941): 50% Greek, 50% Hungarian
    István Bethlen, Prime Minister (1921-1931): Hungarian
    Gyula Gömbös, Prime Minister (1932-1936): 50% German, 50% Hungarian
    Kálmán Darányi, Prime Minister (1936-1938): Hungarian
    Béla Imrédy, Prime Minister (1938-1939): Hungarian
    László Bárdossy, Prime Minister (1941-1942): Hungarian
    Miklós Kállay, Prime Minister (1942-1944): Hungarian
    Döme Sztójay, Prime Minister (1944): Serbian
    Géza Lakatos, Prime Minister (1944): Hungarian
    Ferenc Szálasi, Prime Minister (1944-1945): 50% Hungarian, 25% Armenian, 25% Austrian
    Béla Miklós, Prime Minister (1944-1945): Hungarian
    Zoltán Tildy, Prime Minister (1945-1946): Hungarian
    Ferenc Nagy, Prime Minister (1946-1947): Hungarian
    Lajos Dinnyés, Prime Minister (1947-1948): Hungarian
    Miklós Németh, Prime Minister (1989-1990): 50% German, 50% Hungarian
    József Antall, Prime Minister (1990-1993): 75% Hungarian, 25% Jewish
    Péter Boross, Prime Minister (1993-1994): Hungarian
    Gyula Horn, Prime Minister (1994-1998): 50% Hungarian, 50% Jewish
    Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister (1998-2002, 2010-present): Hungarian
    Péter Medgyessy, Prime Minister (2002-2004): Hungarian
    Ferenc Gyurcsány, Prime Minister (2004-2009): Hungarian
    Gordon Bajnai, Prime Minister (2009-2010): Hungarian
    1. Eastern Europe 44.8%
    2. French & German 33.6%
    3. Greek & Balkan 7.3%
    4. Broadly European 6.5%
    5. Italian 4.4%
    6. Broadly Southern European 2.9%
    7. Central Asian 0.4%
    8. Broadly Central & South Asian 0.1%

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    when you say Russian you mean from Kievan Rus' / Ruthenian, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Béla III, King (1172-1196): 50% Russian, 25% Hungarian, 25% Serb
    we'll soon have the autosomal data of him and one more Arpad.

    Distance: 1.2761% / 1.27613503
    61.6 Slavic
    23.4 Iron_age_Balkan
    15.0 Roman

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    we'll soon have the autosomal data of him and one more Arpad.
    Do you have any information who is working on it, or how did your hear about it? Very curious about his autosomal results, if will it reflect his ethnic composition or not.
    1. Eastern Europe 44.8%
    2. French & German 33.6%
    3. Greek & Balkan 7.3%
    4. Broadly European 6.5%
    5. Italian 4.4%
    6. Broadly Southern European 2.9%
    7. Central Asian 0.4%
    8. Broadly Central & South Asian 0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Do you have any information who is working on it, or how did your hear about it? Very curious about his autosomal results, if will it reflect his ethnic composition or not.
    I literally found the data digging trough the European Nucleotide Archive, lol.
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7176367

    I asked the more experienced forum members here to convert it, hopefully the'll be working on it
    Distance: 1.2761% / 1.27613503
    61.6 Slavic
    23.4 Iron_age_Balkan
    15.0 Roman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Ethnic background of all the heads of state in Hungary's history
    And now you can officially proclaim yourself anti-hungarian, and give yourself a thumb donw


    Btw, if you wanted to show original genetic make-up, then these percentages are wrong, and the picture is too simplyfy.
    In the case of monarchs, country where grandmother was born doesn't equal 100% au from that country.

    Let's take Charles the Last. He had at maximum 3% hungarian and at least 10-15% german from his supossedly 25% portugese side.

    Vladislav the First on the other hand - if he had at best 15-25% lithuanian it would be good. Rest was russian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    And now you can officially proclaim yourself anti-hungarian, and give yourself a thumb donw


    Btw, if you wanted to show original genetic make-up, then these percentages are wrong, and the picture is too simplyfy.
    In the case of monarchs, country where grandmother was born doesn't equal 100% au from that country.

    Let's take Charles the Last. He had at maximum 3% hungarian and at least 10-15% german from his supossedly 25% portugese side.

    Vladislav the First on the other hand - if he had at best 15-25% lithuanian it would be good. Rest was russian.
    Do you still have reading comprehension difficulties after all these years of interacting on a largely English-based forum, since I clearly specified this is not a deep ancestry study, but recent ancestry? On the other hand ethnic background of any European royalty has no relevance to the general ethnic background of the people they ruled over. Everywhere in Europe royalty was more or less mixed between different royal houses, while the people they ruled over were more or less homologous. Thirdly, ethnic identity is culture based and not based on genes and blood. Only deranged Nazis like you still cling religiously to blood connection, which is on its own a completely unscientific and laughable argument.
    1. Eastern Europe 44.8%
    2. French & German 33.6%
    3. Greek & Balkan 7.3%
    4. Broadly European 6.5%
    5. Italian 4.4%
    6. Broadly Southern European 2.9%
    7. Central Asian 0.4%
    8. Broadly Central & South Asian 0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Do you still have reading comprehension difficulties after all these years of interacting on a largely English-based forum, since I clearly specified this is not a deep ancestry study, but recent ancestry?
    Yes, I read it, and what? Can't I write examples of how misguiding it can be?
    Is it forbidden or what? You gave your examples, I gave mine. What's a big deal?
    Are you still eaten insidly by anger and frustration?

    but recent ancestry?
    How there can be some recent ancestry, when there is no ancestry at all?!
    In many cases you just took a country were the person was born and counted
    it as 50 or 25%, when a person has no ancestry from that country at all.

    But there is a positive side of your work anyway. It shows clearly, how stupid, senseless
    and misguiding can be a schizophrenic attitude towards ascendants, genealogy and genetics.
    It would be good if you would learn this from your work, which surely took a lot of time.

    On the other hand ethnic background of any European royalty has no relevance to the general ethnic background of the people they ruled over. Everywhere in Europe royalty was more or less mixed between different royal houses, while the people they ruled over were more or less homologous.
    Really?!

    Thirdly, ethnic identity is culture based and not based on genes and blood.
    It depends. You can't take people who dance a cancan, and proclaim them an ethnicity.

    Only deranged Nazis like you still cling religiously to blood connection
    Others are accusing me of the opposite, so how?

    which is on its own a completely unscientific and laughable argument.
    What has science to do with a fictional statement of mine created by your lying mind?
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