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    Quote Originally Posted by blueeyes View Post
    Poles are closer to East Slavs than to Austrans, Czechs, East Germans.
    Depends which Poles, Central Poles are very close to other West Slavs. Even when we compare average Pole with Ukrainians, he will be modelled with additional 20% German-like ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    Poland is as Slavo-Germanic as Czech and Slovaks, why is it included into Slavic ?
    No it isn't. The most Germanic region of Poland is like 12% Germanic, not counting Kashubians, meanwhile Czechia is something like 35% Germanic, Slovakia 20%.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    Depends which Poles, Central Poles are very close to other West Slavs. Even when we compare average Pole with Ukrainians, he will be modelled with additional 20% German-like ancestry
    Well "German-like" ancestry is irrelevant in this case as Germans themselves have a bunch of Slavic(something like 40% for East Germans). Germanic = Scandinavian, Poles don't go above 12-15%, up to 20%+ for Kashubians.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Serbia/Bosnia are not “Greco” at all.
    You're half vlach half slavic hybrids so yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadorian View Post
    You're half vlach half slavic hybrids so yes.
    They were not Greek, but Illyrians and to a lesser extent Thracians. This is common knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Well "German-like" ancestry is irrelevant in this case as Germans themselves have a bunch of Slavic(something like 40% for East Germans). Germanic = Scandinavian, Poles don't go above 12-15%, up to 20%+ for Kashubians.
    Are you sure?

    Target: Polish_SE
    Distance: 0.8756% / 0.00875578
    99.4 Ukrainian
    0.6 German

    Target: Polish_E
    Distance: 2.1622% / 0.02162185
    100.0 Ukrainian

    Target: Polish_S
    Distance: 0.8851% / 0.00885132
    78.4 Ukrainian
    21.6 German

    Target: Polish_CN
    Distance: 1.0687% / 0.01068653
    86.4 Ukrainian
    13.6 German

    Target: Polish_NE
    Distance: 2.2524% / 0.02252413
    100.0 Ukrainian

    Target: Polish_W
    Distance: 1.3656% / 0.01365603
    68.0 Ukrainian
    32.0 German

    Target: Polish_Wielkopolska
    Distance: 1.3230% / 0.01322977
    80.6 Ukrainian
    19.4 German

    Target: Polish_N
    Distance: 1.8851% / 0.01885116
    87.6 Ukrainian
    12.4 German


    Between, this German is Western and Central German

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    Are you sure?

    Target: Polish_SE
    Distance: 0.8756% / 0.00875578
    99.4 Ukrainian
    0.6 German

    Target: Polish_E
    Distance: 2.1622% / 0.02162185
    100.0 Ukrainian

    Target: Polish_S
    Distance: 0.8851% / 0.00885132
    78.4 Ukrainian
    21.6 German

    Target: Polish_CN
    Distance: 1.0687% / 0.01068653
    86.4 Ukrainian
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    Target: Polish_NE
    Distance: 2.2524% / 0.02252413
    100.0 Ukrainian

    Target: Polish_W
    Distance: 1.3656% / 0.01365603
    68.0 Ukrainian
    32.0 German

    Target: Polish_Wielkopolska
    Distance: 1.3230% / 0.01322977
    80.6 Ukrainian
    19.4 German

    Target: Polish_N
    Distance: 1.8851% / 0.01885116
    87.6 Ukrainian
    12.4 German


    Between, this German is Western and Central German
    What is Polish_W with double Germanic component of Wielkopolska? I mean what regions is this supposed to represent?

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    It's not a horrid map. It's not perfect, though. Both Eastern England and Southeast England should be in the same category. It's wrong to place the Southeast with the Southwest since the latter is more "Celtic" than the former.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rero View Post
    What is Polish_W with double Germanic component of Wielkopolska? I mean what regions is this supposed to represent?
    These are quasi averages and individuals who were very western were included into it.

    Btw all my Polish ancestors were from Ukraine and supposed to be very Slavic.
    Look at what basically my fully Polish part from my father gets on G25

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    Distance: 1.3956% / 0.01395648
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    16.2 Austrian

    Austrian is quarter Slavic, but still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Well "German-like" ancestry is irrelevant in this case as Germans themselves have a bunch of Slavic(something like 40% for East Germans).
    I think that Slavic ancestry for East Germany is overrated. Part of Slavs in East Germany were Slavicized Germans. My estimation would be about 25%.

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