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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Levett View Post
    Germany is definitely more Fälid (or more general Nordo-Cromagnid) than it is Sub-Nordid. Going to disagree with you very much there. I seem to have underestimated the amount of Alpines in France but narrow faces dominate throughout the whole country so up to 40% of French being Alpine like some have claimed is ridiculous.
    No it isn't. And probably unlike you I lived in Germany. 40% of French being alpine like is quite realistic. Seems you are just another American without much real experience with Europeans.

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    I'd say Borreby is slightly more common than Alpinid in Germany (I saw Borreby types everywhere in Germany, there were alot of them in southwestern Germany, near the French border), but Alpinid/Subnordid is definitely very common (I saw alot of Alpines even in northwestern Germany). Dinarid/Norid is criminally underrated aswell, it's another element that exists in all over Germany, Faelid and Faelid-mixed people are still very common.

    I'd also say that Baltid is much more common than pure Trønder/Hallstatt/Brünn (also depends on how you define "Trønder" I guess) in Germany, it's quite underrated aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Both Atlantid and Anglo-Saxon are minority types in England speaking in the strict sense but culturally the Germanic part is the most significant and it is BOTH the Atlantid and Germanic elements, in the wide sense, that differentiate England from Ireland anthropometrically. Since, KN is by far the most common racial condition throughout the British isles it is generally minority elements that set Wales, Ireland, Scotland and England apart from each other.

    For instance, it Yorkshire, Lincolnshire , Norfolk, Suffolk, East Anglia, Cornwall, Devonshire, midlands and NorthCumbria that set England apart from Ireland.
    Anglo-Saxon seems (far) more common than Atlantid in England atleast.

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    England:
    Anglosaxon:20%
    Tronder:15%
    Borreby:10%
    Brunn:15%
    North atlantid:15%
    Keltic nordid:10%
    Halstatt:5%
    Atlantid:10%

    France:

    20% subnordid
    15% north atlantid
    20% alpinid
    10% atlantid
    5% gracilmed
    5% borreby
    15% dinarid
    9% keltic nordid
    1% halstatt nordid

    Germany:
    15% Borreby
    15% faelid
    5% brunn
    20% anglosaxon+tronder
    15% dinarid
    10% subnordid
    5% alpinid
    5% Baltid
    7% north atlantid
    2% atlantid
    1% gracilmed

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    Quote Originally Posted by chociprasa View Post
    Anglo-Saxon seems (far) more common than Atlantid in England atleast.
    Anglo-Saxon strictly is not so common but as a broader category including Tronder types it's possibly the second most common after Keltic Nordic.

    Atlantid is an almost pan-Western type (like JB007) that is equally or more common in France, so it's not one of the dominant types in England, and North Atlantid is overrated. Combined though they could be considered a major type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Übermensch View Post
    England:
    Anglosaxon:20%
    Tronder:15%
    Borreby:10%
    Brunn:15%
    North atlantid:15%
    Keltic nordid:10%
    Halstatt:5%
    Atlantid:10%
    Anglo-Saxon+Tronder is no more than 1/4, let alone 35%. As Oliver said Borreby influence is more significant than Brunn, contrary to Ireland/Scotland. Keltic Nordic is absolute minimum 20% in England, probably over 1/4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chociprasa View Post
    Anglo-Saxon seems (far) more common than Atlantid in England atleast.
    Anglo-Saxon isn't a legitimate phenotype(it's just Hallstatt with minor CM influence), and are you really going to tell me these people(the most prominent and widely used examples on the internet of this "Anglo-Saxon" I could find):







    (of course, none of these are actually "Anglo-Saxons", but Hallstatt+Faelid or +Brunn depending on definition of Brunn, North Atlantid+Faelid or +Brunn, and KN+CM or +Tronder)

    are more common in England than these people:









    Of course some people will say those are Brunns, dark Nordics or some shit. It's not the fault of Atlantids that a bunch of southern Europeans wanted to be something more northern and hijacked the term to include people with no obvious Nordic influence like this obviously Atlanto-Med Englishman:



    The man who coined the Atlantid term's example looks very British, and not what passes off as "Atlantid" to a lot of people.



    Hooton's examples of a similar type look the same, four of Hooton's examples(not these two) even had extremely obvious Brunn influence, two having significant Brunn influence(again, not these two examples below, these are more standard Atlantids).





    Atlantid is quintessentially a British type, North Atlantid is more common, but both peak in the British Isles, and is one of the more common phenotypes there. Of course, the majority of British people(and all European people) are of mixed phenotypes(depending on your definition of a phenotype and how broad a range it can encompass, the tighter definition makes more sense to me, both logically and in terms of the genetic history of most places), and pure phenotypes are the exception rather than the rule.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Anglo-Saxon isn't a legitimate phenotype(it's just Hallstatt with minor CM influence)
    That's sort of how I feel about Atlantid though. Who exactly are the 'Atlantids' and where did they come from? They're not a mix of Med and Nordic as is often said, they must be a Celtic type. Don't really seem quintessentially British if they're mostly dark/mixed eyed though, and it seems more like a bridge between French and British phenotypes in many cases, which fits with a Continental Celtic origin.

    Even if Anglo-Saxon is an unnecessary or overrated type at least it can be historically traced and put in a distinct Germanic Nordic family alongside Tronder and Hallstatt (sic), that were indisputably brought by Anglo-Saxons in the case of England.
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    almost all Romanians are basically a mix of two or three of these components (in this order):

    - Mediterranean
    - Alpine
    - Dinaric


    most prevalent are the Med-Alpines East of the Carpathians and Med-Alpine-Dinaric (Carpathic) West of the Carpathians.

    southwest Romania (Banat region) is especially Dinaric.

    a small percentage of Romanians show exotic influences: Baltic, Nordic or Turanic mostly

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