Are Germans closer to Poles or Brits?

[Rethel]

and those Poles go to school with Turks and Yugoslavs in inner cities, they generally don't mix with Germans. Obviously you'll get a few people,

Nope.
Polish Germans are totaly mixed and assimilated.
In Germany assimilation also is in normal way - at leaast look of Ruhr Polen, who are long ago absorbed.
Each year thousands of mixed marriages happen.

The fact is, that both groups are mixing. Period.

[Peterski]

They mixed before they were known as "Poles" as were still various Slavic tribes.

Poles are known as Poles since the 900s AD.

[Rethel]

Poles are known as Poles since the 900s AD.

Yea.
And it has to be yet added, that some 7-10 mln germanized and not
germanized Poles and half-Poles were resettled to BRD after 1945...
And millions did migrate into Western Germany during Belle Epoque.

[JamesBond007]

I really don't feel like doing the math on this e.g. how much people like in Eastern Germany compared to the rest and merging the two in scaled manner but apparently it is the British except for East Germans as was already stated here. I know I criticized G25 but I'm using it , anyway. :

Distance to: German
0.01735744 Austrian
0.01879316 Dutch
0.01951422 Welsh
0.02042890 Afrikaner
0.02067245 French_Brittany
0.02097858 Belgian
0.02108829 English
0.02218692 Danish
0.02227626 French_Nord
0.02247490 English_Cornwall
0.02278680 French_Alsace
0.02338941 French_Seine-Maritime
0.02340906 German_East
0.02345080 Scottish
0.02370322 Orcadian
0.02531378 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02650900 Shetlandic
0.02674749 Hungarian
0.02801936 Czech
0.02834397 Irish
0.02861469 Swiss_German
0.02878980 Swedish
0.02968340 Norwegian
0.02989761 French_Paris
0.03019073 Icelandic

Distance to: German_East
0.01658407 Czech
0.02265911 Hungarian
0.02340906 German
0.02440754 Slovenian
0.02469695 Austrian
0.02792097 Croatian
0.03022331 Swedish
0.03115908 Danish
0.03185404 Polish
0.03225422 Slovakian
0.03313663 Dutch
0.03586342 Ukrainian_B
0.03592241 Orcadian
0.03639253 Afrikaner
0.03699343 Welsh
0.03734138 English
0.03745789 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.03758040 Scottish
0.03781442 Icelandic
0.03832252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03872178 Shetlandic
0.03872697 English_Cornwall
0.03933290 Ukrainian
0.04003233 French_Brittany
0.04005465 Moldovan_o

[Septentrion]

Usually they are of a Faelid or Borreby inspiration but they are more common there than in the UK definitely i think and the Dutch as a group probably resemble Swedes more than they resemble the British. The British have always been more of a cross between Irish and north-central Euro groups anyway i think, they don't as a group resemble those on the northern coasts of Europe and Scandinavia and the numerous migrations over millennia means they have developed quite a distinctive mixed look with less homogeneity than in Denmark or northern Holland.

These are very similar populations (British and Dutch), as they are both based on the Iron Age Nordic phenotype. Differences are in the admixtures, for the Dutch more Borreby and Dalofaelid in particular and for the British more North Atlantid and Brunn.

[JamesBond007]

Usually they are of a Faelid or Borreby inspiration but they are more common there than in the UK definitely i think and the Dutch as a group probably resemble Swedes more than they resemble the British. The British have always been more of a cross between Irish and north-central Euro groups anyway i think, they don't as a group resemble those on the northern coasts of Europe and Scandinavia and the numerous migrations over millennia means they have developed quite a distinctive mixed look with less homogeneity than in Denmark or northern Holland.

I think if you morphed together the average picture of an Irish person and the average picture of a dutch person you would get the British more or less. Is that not enough to say the Dutch are similar to the British ?

[Davystayn]

Usually they are of a Faelid or Borreby inspiration but they are more common there than in the UK definitely i think and the Dutch as a group probably resemble Swedes more than they resemble the British. The British have always been more of a cross between Irish and north-central Euro groups anyway i think, they don't as a group resemble those on the northern coasts of Europe and Scandinavia and the numerous migrations over millennia means they have developed quite a distinctive mixed look with less homogeneity than in Denmark or northern Holland.

Ridiculous generalisations lol.

All NW Euros are mixed phenotypes with those phenotypes existing in all NW countries to varying degrees.

Also Swedes have clear Baltid influence that Dutch dont really have at all. I'd believe Serpentrion tbh who actually lives in the Low Countries

[Oliver109]

I think if you morphed together the average picture of an Irish person and the average picture of a dutch person you would get the British more or less. Is that not enough to say the Dutch are similar to the British ?

Well i would put it this way: English-Welsh-Scottish-Flemish-Walloons-Dutch-West Germans-Irish-Northern French and so on, with regards to general looks that is.

[Davystayn]

Well i would put it this way: English-Welsh-Scottish-Flemish-Dutch-West Germans-Irish-Northern French and so on, with regards to general looks that is.

Again ridiculous generalisations. I know we all do it but chrissakes. There are actual studies out there on all this stuff

[JamesBond007]

Again ridiculous generalisations. I know we all do it but chrissakes. There are actual studies out there on all this stuff

Yeah, honestly, you seem to be the voice of reason here. The British island cultural mentality dictates that you or 'we' see the Scots, Irish and Welsh as less foreign but I think genetic studies would show the closest cousins of the English are the Dutch, in some regions, and Danish in other regions perhaps. But there are some English people who live close to the Welsh border that are still very celtic etc.. and the Welsh might be their closest cousins. Me ? I don't think I look Dutch at all I think I look more English dark Cornish/Devonshire or as you say at least dark Scottish , yet, some DNA analysis shows me as Dutch because they are closely related.