How can Turkish people from Western Anatolia be closer to Iranians than they are to most Europeans?

[Aren]

Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 2.9293% / 0.02929282
49.2 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA
41.4 Corded_Ware_DEU
7.2 MAR_Taforalt
2.2 Iberia_Central_CA

Interesting. You seem to have rather low WHG then. Spanish averages prefer Iberia_CA or a mix of Iberia_CA + something low in WHG.


Target: Spanish_Alacant
Distance: 1.1909% / 0.01190888
38.2 Corded_Ware_DEU
32.0 Iberia_Central_CA
14.6 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA
9.4 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
3.2 MAR_Taforalt
2.6 Levant_Sidon_MBA

[Defcon2]

Interesting. You seem to have rather low WHG then. Spanish averages prefer Iberia_CA or a mix of Iberia_CA + something low in WHG.


Target: Spanish_Alacant
Distance: 1.1909% / 0.01190888
38.2 Corded_Ware_DEU
32.0 Iberia_Central_CA
14.6 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA
9.4 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
3.2 MAR_Taforalt
2.6 Levant_Sidon_MBA

It is true that it is quite low, although it is not incredibly low, around 10%. The majority of Spanish/Portuguese people I have seen have between 10-12% WHG, only a minority surpass that.

Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 4.8119% / 0.04811909
55.4 TUR_Barcin_N
27.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 WHG
4.2 MAR_Taforalt
1.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.0 Yoruba
0.6 Han

[Didac]

According to this Levantine Lebanon etc similar climate to much or iran however the Levantine Lebanese match their genetics via looks being the most west Asian group there is and closest to Europe after transitional populations such as Cypriots and Jews and the climate doesn’t seem to have affected their looks

[Didac]

Non turanid influenced Western-central-southern anatolian Turks can pass as southern european easily and even some Afghans can pass as southern euro too but i don't think average Turks can pass as central euro

Btw aruncaz isn't troll he just asked a question that doesn't mean he is troll

Yes ofc Afghans Pakistanis indians South Indians Sri Lankan’s all pass in Southern Europe bc Southern Europe is just South Asia right

[happycow]

OWD thread

[Roy]

On G25 this is particularly noticeable, on it they're closer to Persians than they are to Greek islanders. The Turkic tribes who settled in Anatolia also brought some Iranian-like admix with them.

Yeah, it's a good explanation.

[Chocolate_Hound]

They aren't. Anatolia always felt more culturally Balkan than MENA to me anyways. I feel like people pay too much attention to strict geographic borders without taking actual cultural influence into account. People really think that once you pass Istanbul it's instantly like Egypt or Pakistan lmao. Not at all, even Ankara felt pretty familiar to me as a Greek.

[Roy]

They aren't. Anatolia always felt more culturally Balkan than MENA to me anyways. I feel like people pay too much attention to strict geographic borders without taking actual cultural influence into account. People really think that once you pass Istanbul it's instantly like Egypt or Pakistan lmao. Not at all, even Ankara felt pretty familiar to me as a Greek.

The guy in the OP though meant in a genetic way.

[placebo]

because turks from western anatolia not closer to central europeans than iranians as appearance lol.

but they're closer (especially northwest) to some balkan populations and southern italians than iranians as genetically but i don't think they're close to either side.

[Italicus]

On G25 this is particularly noticeable, on it they're closer to Persians than they are to Greek islanders. The Turkic tribes who settled in Anatolia also brought some Iranian-like admix with them.

Really? That's pretty cool, some calculators show West Anatolian Turks being close to Greeks (specifically Islanders), but then again it they are outdated compared to g25.