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    Default How can Turkish people from Western Anatolia be closer to Iranians than they are to most Europeans?

    I looked at some GEDmatch samples from provinces from Western Anatolia and all of those samples are closer to Iranians than they are to most of the Europeans. Turkish people from those provinces phenotypically look much more like Southern and Central Europeans than they look like Iranians. However, genetic tells the other way around. I know that phenotype and genotype are not 100% correlated but in this case, what causes these phenotype differences other than genetics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post


    Yes, climate is probably an important factor here.

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    Last I heard Mongoloid DNA peaks in the western half of Anatolia.

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    Turkish people from those provinces phenotypically look much more like Southern and Central Europeans
    I'll disagree here

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    It's simple, the western Anatolians who went into Europe during the neolithic, left some empty space for more Iranian type of farmers to settle from the east. Today they are relatively very far from the Anatolians that were living there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I'll disagree here
    Why? I guess Western Anatolians and Iranians have significant phenotype difference on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    Why? I guess Western Anatolians and Iranians have significant phenotype difference on average.
    a) I didnt say they look like Iranians


    b) Here is a Turk from Western Province inbetween Central Europeans. It's ridiculous to claim western turks look close to Central Europeans:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    a) I didnt say they look like Iranians


    b) Here is a Turk from Western Province inbetween Central Europeans. It's ridiculous to claim western turks look close to Central Europeans:
    There are always exceptions but I lived in İzmir for a while and I don't think most people here look more Iranian then they look Central European.

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    On G25 this is particularly noticeable, on it they're closer to Persians than they are to Greek islanders. The Turkic tribes who settled in Anatolia also brought some Iranian-like admix with them.

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