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    Western anatolian Turks phenotype are neither Central European nor Iranian.
    The mongoloid ratio of 10-18% is the main factor that distinguishes it from others in appearance. Greek ancestors(40-60%) of the west anatolian Turks mostly have the same genetics as the islander Greeks.
    Possible reason for the Oghuz groups to mix with eastern Iranian groups when they were in central Asia.
    When I look at these people, I find similarity with Caucasian peoples, not Southern, Central European or Persian



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    Quote Originally Posted by mergen3 View Post
    Western anatolian Turks phenotype are neither Central European nor Iranian.
    I still think they look more Southern or Central European than they look Iranian.

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    That is because you like to see them as such even though others are showing that they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mergen3 View Post
    Western anatolian Turks phenotype are neither Central European nor Iranian.
    The mongoloid ratio of 10-18% is the main factor that distinguishes it from others in appearance. Greek ancestors(40-60%) of the west anatolian Turks mostly have the same genetics as the islander Greeks.
    Possible reason for the Oghuz groups to mix with eastern Iranian groups when they were in central Asia.
    When I look at these people, I find similarity with Caucasian peoples, not Southern, Central European or Persian


    Or common BMAC ancestor of Turkics and Iranics
    Turkics were eurasian right? Early Turkics have BMAC admixture too
    Maybe This is an another reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    There are always exceptions but I lived in İzmir for a while and I don't think most people here look more Iranian then they look Central European.
    Öncelikle İzmir bir büyükşehir. Ve bu şehirin %15-20'si Boşnak, Arnavut ve Pomak gibi gruplardan oluşmuştur. Buna %20 Balkan Türklerini eklersen fenotip olarak belki Yunanistana yakinsayabilir. Fakat bunların dışındaki gruplar özellikle Yerli İzmirliler ne iranlilara ne de güney avrupalılara benzer. Adalı Yunanlara yakinsayabilirler fakat genede kendilerine özel bir fenotipleri var. İzmir'in cok kozmopolit bir yapısı var. %20 civarında dogu ve güney anadolu'dan gelen Kürtler ve Türkler var. Bati Anadolu Türklerini incelemek istiyorsan Denizli ve Muğla guzel bir ornek olabilir

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    Quote Originally Posted by mergen3 View Post
    Öncelikle İzmir bir büyükşehir. Ve bu şehirin %15-20'si Boşnak, Arnavut ve Pomak gibi gruplardan oluşmuştur. Buna %20 Balkan Türklerini eklersen fenotip olarak belki Yunanistana yakinsayabilir. Fakat bunların dışındaki gruplar özellikle Yerli İzmirliler ne iranlilara ne de güney avrupalılara benzer. Adalı Yunanlara yakinsayabilirler fakat genede kendilerine özel bir fenotipleri var. İzmir'in cok kozmopolit bir yapısı var. %20 civarında dogu ve güney anadolu'dan gelen Kürtler ve Türkler var. Bati Anadolu Türklerini incelemek istiyorsan Denizli ve Muğla guzel bir ornek olabilir

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    Saydığınız topluluklar da İzmir'in yerlileri sayılır, sonuçta onların da İzmir'i memleketleri olarak benimsediklerini düşünüyorum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    Saydığınız topluluklar da İzmir'in yerlileri sayılır, sonuçta onların da İzmir'i memleketleri olarak benimsediklerini düşünüyorum.
    Şöyle hepsini bir potada ele alırsak İzmir ve çoğu Bati Anadolu şehri Güney Avrupa'ya yakinsayabilir. Fakat orta avrupa cok farklı bir olay. Bosnaklar dışında onlara benzeyen bir grup olduğunu düşünmüyorum. Cogu Boşnakta(yeni nesil) İzmir'de gördüğüm kadarıyla Türklerle evlilik yapmış.

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    in before 20+ pages of cope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    in before 20+ pages of cope
    What does it mean?

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    EEF (Early European Farmer) connection makes sense.

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