How can Turkish people from Western Anatolia be closer to Iranians than they are to most Europeans?

[Negah]

I'll disagree here

I agree as someone who has been to Turkey, while Turks tend be lighter than much of mena yet they don’t look European, they look Anatolian

[placebo]

I'll disagree here

yeah we see the differences but from the outside, pigmentation important than facial features imo. most turks have same pigmentation as balkan or southern euro people. that's why people think turks more like southern euros than menas.

i think we are most look like caucasus people. (both western and eastern turkey)

[reboun]

I agree as someone who has been to Turkey, while Turks tend be lighter than much of mena yet they don’t look European, they look Anatolian

Actually I also don't think Western Anatolians look like Central Europeans but I observed that they usually look more Central and Southern European than they look Syrian/Iraqi/Iranian.

[Avicenna]

Actually I also don't think Western Anatolians look like Central Europeans but I observed that they usually look more Central and Southern European than they look Syrian/Iraqi/Iranian.

I digaree here , yes Turks are lighter but they are not closer to most south euros than to Iranians / Syrians .

[Sora]

I agree with Mergen. Most of the Western Anatolian metropolitans are heavily mixed and the citycenters of those metropolitans are ethnically(don't confuse with nationality) at least 50% non-Turkish or mixed-with-Turkish. Even, if we exclude everyone except Anatolian Turks native to those cities.

Foe example; some sources say İzmir is at most 60%-70% Turk(40%-50% if we exclude Balkan Turks & Anatolian Turk immigrants from other provinces, I guess). If we go to countysides of Izmir, then the percentage of course will increase. But if we go to the center of the citycenter, then it may fall into 20%-30%.

If we don't count Balkan & other Anatolian immigrants, then İzmir can look more homogenous. Even less European if we exclude Balkan immigrants(even Balkan Turks). Yes, Western Turks mostly look more European(especially Med) than Turks from other regions but I don't think they can pass as Central European (maybe except some individuals)

[reboun]

I digaree here , yes Turks are lighter but they are not closer to most south euros than to Iranians / Syrians .

Genetically, Western Anatolian Turks might be closer to Syrians and Iranian but phenotype-wise they are closer to Southern Europeans and even Central Europeans. I lived in İzmir for a while.

[reboun]

I agree with Mergen. Most of the Western Anatolian metropolitans are heavily mixed and the citycenters of those metropolitans are ethnically(don't confuse with nationality) at least 50% non-Turkish or mixed-with-Turkish. Even, if we exclude everyone except Anatolian Turks native to those cities.

Foe example; some sources say İzmir is at most 60%-70% Turk(40%-50% if we exclude Balkan Turks & Anatolian Turk immigrants from other provinces, I guess). If we go to countysides of Izmir, then the percentage of course will increase. But if we go to the center of the citycenter, then it may fall into 20%-30%.

If we don't count Balkan & other Anatolian immigrants, then İzmir can look more homogenous. Even less European if we exclude Balkan immigrants(even Balkan Turks). Yes, Western Turks mostly look more European(especially Med) than Turks from other regions but I don't think they can pass as Central European (maybe except some individuals)

I actually meant whole population of İzmir. Yes, they might not be looking Central European but in my opinion they look less Iranian than they look Central European.

[Avicenna]

Genetically, Western Anatolian Turks might be closer to Syrians and Iranian but phenotype-wise they are closer to Southern Europeans and even Central Europeans. I lived in İzmir for a while.

Central Europeans ? What are you smoking ?

[reboun]

Central Europeans ? What are you smoking ?

Yes, Central Europeans too.

[Avicenna]

Genetically, Western Anatolian Turks might be closer to Syrians and Iranian but phenotype-wise they are closer to Southern Europeans and even Central Europeans. I lived in İzmir for a while.

To say they look closer to central Europeans than to Syrians or Iranians just shows that you are either ignorant on the phenotypes of your neighbours or you have a severe case of OWD.

^^ video is from.izmir