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Why are you so dumb?Originally Posted by Rethel
The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpineoldschool anthropology
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Rather Pre-Germanic. The consensus is that Grimm's law occured during the pre-Roman Iron Age, probably in Jastorf area (even though there are some interesting Uralic parallels to the sound-shifts). Late Proto-Germanic was still spoken in the 3rd century AD despite the wide-ranging distribution of Germanic-speakers at the time so there is no way it is much older than that.
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Scotland LBA is most affinity with current day Ireland and Wales from Mitchell
England: Results of Combined England_Anglo-Saxon, England_CA_EBA, England_IA, England_LBA, England_MBA, England_N, England_Roman
England Neolithic. Has the greatest affinity to present day France & Belgium.
French:Average 22.5%
French_East:Average 19.17%
Belgian:Average 15.83%
English_Cornwall:Average 9.17%
Orcadian:Average 7.5%
English:Average 7.5%
Welsh:Average 6.67%
German:Average 6.67%
Scottish:Average 5%
Dutch:Average 3.33%
Irish:Average 3.33%
Swedish:Average 1.67%
Icelandic:Average 1.67%
Shetlandic:Average 0.83%
Norwegian:Average 0.83%
England Copper Age/Bronze Age. Again NE France/Belgium at the top of the list.
French_East:Average 25.83%
French:Average 20.83%
Belgian:Average 20%
Welsh:Average 10.83%
Norwegian:Average 9.17%
Dutch:Average 6.67%
Orcadian:Average 6.67%
Shetlandic:Average 5%
Swedish:Average 5%
English_Cornwall:Average 4.17%
Irish:Average 1.67%
English:Average 1.67%
Icelandic:Average 0.83%
Scottish:Average 0.83%
German:Average 0%
England Middle Bronze Age (MBA2) For some reason there seems to be a Nordic affinity in the 1500–1000 BC timeframe.
Orcadian:Average 24.17%
Swedish:Average 20.83%
Scottish:Average 16.67%
Icelandic:Average 16.67%
Shetlandic:Average 16.67%
Welsh:Average 15%
Dutch:Average 15%
English_Cornwall:Average 14.17%
Irish:Average 13.33%
Norwegian:Average 10%
English:Average 8.33%
German:Average 0%
French_East:Average 0%
French:Average 0%
Belgian:Average 0%
England Late Bronze Age. Every present day country got 0% for this one. Not sure what to make of that. Maybe there wasn't much genetic impact on present populations from the 1000-700 BC timeframe
England Iron Age (800 BC - 100 AD) There seems to be a Germanic/Celtic mix with no clear pattern. Maybe this is in part from the arrival of the Hallstatt, La Tene, Belgae and then the Germanic Roman auxiliary mixing with the local Britons.
German:Average 21.67%
Irish:Average 20.83%
Swedish:Average 20%
Welsh:Average 18.33%
English:Average 18.33%
Norwegian:Average 17.5%
Scottish:Average 15%
French_East:Average 14.17%
French:Average 13.33%
Belgian:Average 12.5%
Dutch:Average 11.67%
Icelandic:Average 7.5%
Orcadian:Average 5.83%
Shetlandic:Average 5.83%
English_Cornwall:Average 0.83%
England Roman (43 - 400 AD)
German:Average 56.67%
English_Cornwall:Average 40.83%
English:Average 40.83%
Orcadian:Average 36.67%
French:Average 33.33%
Scottish:Average 33.33%
Irish:Average 33.33%
Belgian:Average 32.5%
Dutch:Average 30.83%
Shetlandic:Average 23.33%
French_East:Average 20%
Icelandic:Average 17.5%
Welsh:Average 11.67%
Swedish:Average 11.67%
Norwegian:Average 0%
England Anglo-Saxon No surprise on the first 4, but kind of surprised that present day Welsh is so high on this list. Much higher than the English.
Norwegian:Average 62.5%
Icelandic:Average 55.83%
Shetlandic:Average 48.33%
Swedish:Average 40.83%
Welsh:Average 37.5%
Dutch:Average 32.5%
English_Cornwall:Average 30.83%
Scottish:Average 29.17%
Irish:Average 27.5%
English:Average 23.33%
French_East:Average 20.83%
Orcadian:Average 19.17%
Belgian:Average 19.17%
German:Average 15%
French:Average 10%
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Scotland: Scotland_CA_EBA, Scotland_LBA, Scotland_MBA, Scotland_N
Scotland Neolithic: Just like in England Neolithic, an affinity to France & Belgium.
French:Average 25%
French_East:Average 22.5%
Belgian:Average 17.5%
German:Average 10.83%
English_Cornwall:Average 8.33%
English:Average 7.5%
Orcadian:Average 5%
Scottish:Average 5%
Dutch:Average 4.17%
Welsh:Average 2.5%
Irish:Average 2.5%
Shetlandic:Average 0.83%
Swedish:Average 0%
Norwegian:Average 0%
Icelandic:Average 0%
Scotland Copper Age/Bronze Age. Like in England during this period, France East is at the top of the list
French_East:Average 42.5%
German:Average 39.17%
Swedish:Average 35.83%
Norwegian:Average 30%
Icelandic:Average 21.67%
Dutch:Average 19.17%
Welsh:Average 19.17%
Belgian:Average 15.83%
French:Average 15%
Orcadian:Average 13.33%
English:Average 10.83%
Scottish:Average 4.17%
English_Cornwall:Average 2.5%
Irish:Average 0%
Shetlandic:Average 0%
Scotland Middle Bronze Age (MBA2) Unlike Middle Bronze Age England which appears to have a Nordic affinity, Scotland has more of a German/Dutch/Eastern France affinity in the 1500–1000 BC timeframe.
German:Average 34.17%
Dutch:Average 33.33%
French_East:Average 25.83%
French:Average 25%
Swedish:Average 23.33%
Norwegian:Average 23.33%
Scottish:Average 23.33%
Icelandic:Average 19.17%
Shetlandic:Average 18.33%
Belgian:Average 15.83%
English:Average 13.33%
English_Cornwall:Average 13.33%
Orcadian:Average 10%
Irish:Average 7.5%
Welsh:Average 0%
Scotland Late Bronze Age. Very strong affinity with the present day "Celtic" regions i.e. Ireland, Wales, and Cornwall. Very different result from England during period
Irish:Average 90%
Shetlandic:Average 80.83%
Welsh:Average 78.33%
English_Cornwall:Average 75.83%
Orcadian:Average 71.67%
English:Average 68.33%
Scottish:Average 67.5%
Icelandic:Average 59.17%
Belgian:Average 50.83%
Norwegian:Average 46.67%
Dutch:Average 43.33%
Swedish:Average 40.83%
French:Average 35%
German:Average 15.83%
French_East:Average 9.17
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Ireland: Ireland_EBA +Ireland_MN. This is probably just present day populations' affinity to Bell Beaker vs Pre Bell Beaker in Ireland
Ireland Middle Neolithic. It appears that present day France might retain more of it's Pre bell beaker ancestry when compared to other areas of NW Europe?
French:Average 31.67%
French_East:Average 28.33%
Belgian:Average 25%
English_Cornwall:Average 18.33%
German:Average 17.5%
English:Average 16.67%
Orcadian:Average 14.17%
Scottish:Average 13.33%
Dutch:Average 12.5%
Irish:Average 12.5%
Welsh:Average 11.67%
Shetlandic:Average 9.17%
Icelandic:Average 7.5%
Norwegian:Average 6.67%
Swedish:Average 6.67%
Ireland Early Bronze Age.
Norwegian:Average 93.33%
Swedish:Average 93.33%
Icelandic:Average 92.5%
Shetlandic:Average 90.83%
Welsh:Average 88.33%
Dutch:Average 87.5%
Irish:Average 87.5%
Scottish:Average 86.67%
Orcadian:Average 85.83%
English:Average 83.33%
German:Average 82.5%
English_Cornwall:Average 81.67%
Belgian:Average 75%
French_East:Average 71.67%
French:Average 68.33%
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Wales: Wales_CA_EBA +Wales_N
Wales Neolithic: Again present day France seems closer to the original neolithic population than other areas of Northwest Europe.
French:Average 29.17%
French_East:Average 25.83%
Belgian:Average 22.5%
German:Average 15%
English_Cornwall:Average 14.17%
English:Average 12.5%
Dutch:Average 10%
Orcadian:Average 10%
Scottish:Average 10%
Welsh:Average 10%
Irish:Average 9.17%
Shetlandic:Average 6.67%
Icelandic:Average 5%
Norwegian:Average 5%
Swedish:Average 5%
Wales Copper Age/Early Bronze Age: More affinity to present day Nordic countries
Icelandic:Average 95%
Norwegian:Average 95%
Swedish:Average 95%
Shetlandic:Average 93.33%
Irish:Average 90.83%
Dutch:Average 90%
Orcadian: Average 90%
Scottish:Average 90%
Welsh:Average 90%
English:Average 87.5%
English_Cornwall:Average 85.83%
German:Average 85%
Belgian:Average 77.5%
French_East:Average 74.17%
French:Average 70.83%
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Finally FWIW, comparing Beaker Britain to Beaker Central Europe
Sample Fit Beaker Britain Beaker Central Europe
French_East:Average 1.0402 0.83% 99.17%
French:Average 1.131 5% 95%
German:Average 1.0824 11.67% 88.33%
Welsh:Average 1.3873 16.67% 83.33%
Belgian:Average 1.1307 19.17% 80.83%
Norwegian:Average 1.5551 32.5% 67.5%
Swedish:Average 1.5483 37.5% 62.5%
English_Cornwall:Average 1.4961 40.83% 59.17%
Dutch:Average 1.3201 43.33% 56.67%
Scottish:Average 1.2249 49.17% 50.83%
English:Average 1.2779 50% 50%
Shetlandic:Average 1.8495 52.5% 47.5%
Icelandic:Average 1.496 54.17% 45.83%
Orcadian:Average 1.0121 54.17% 45.83%
Irish:Average 1.481 56.67% 43.33%
Yfull [B]ID: YF83218 admix -> https://i.ibb.co/NjwQTz6/myherit1.png
G25 Distance: 1.0778%
86.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
5.2 ITA_Sardinia_C_o:I15940 1.4 ITA_Daunian
3.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
3.6 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK464
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Then you probably think you are very wise.
So if you are so, then tell us, what language did Bellbeakers speak, you, o wisest source of wisdom? Hmm...?
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I've said it numerous times, the non-Germanic part of modern day English differs from that of Ireland and Scotland. It's more of an Insular-Continetal mix which is even more obvious when looking at uniparentals. R-L21 is much lower in England than elsewhere Britain/Ireland and DF27 and U152 are higher despite all of the Germanic lineages.
Ironically this means that English people have more actual Celtic ancestry than the Irish.
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Celtic Football Club need a name change.
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For sure, English are still more southern shifted than Irish/Scottish despite having a decent chunk of A/S, and A/S samples we have are Scandinavian like genetically. R-L21 is almost non existent in parts of S/E England based off some old stats from the English dna project. Maybe the stats look different now, haven't seen any up to date ones.
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Obviously the Celtic influence in Ireland was via Celtic Britons. The replacement of Bronze Age Irish by Celtic speakers was probably similarly large.
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GIGA (garbage in garbage out) some Polack science G25 tool is saying Wales and Cornwall score higher in AS than the standard English -- it must be true ! -- pass the crack cocaine please !
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