Page 1 of 13 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 122

Thread: Why are Armenians white but Turks are not?

  1. #1
    Veteran Member
    Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Mortimer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Online
    Today @ 02:09 AM
    Ethnicity
    Southasian Hunter-Gatherer
    Ancestry
    Mixed - Multiracial - Multicultural
    Country
    Israel
    Region
    City of London
    Religion
    Christianity
    Age
    41
    Gender
    Posts
    86,881
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 58,122
    Given: 58,886

    0 Not allowed!

    Default Why are Armenians white but Turks are not?

    I think Armenians like Kurds are more westasian and turks are a little more european?
    My AncestryDNA autosomal results [yes it is a link click on it]
    “The patriot, like the Christian, must learn that to bear revilings and persecutions is a part of his duty; and in proportion as the trial is severe, firmness under it becomes more requisite and praiseworthy.” ~ Thomas Jefferson, 1805

  2. #2
    Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Westbrook's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Ethnicity
    ✨👽✨
    Ancestry
    Preußisches Sachsen, Hessen, Bayern, Gloucestershire, Somerset, Yorkshire, Kent, Catalonia, Menorca
    Country
    Malta
    Gender
    Posts
    4,994
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3,844
    Given: 786

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    I don't think I've ever seen a white Armenian in my life

  3. #3
    Veteran Member placebo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 06:47 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    turkic
    Ethnicity
    turkish + 1/4 georgian
    Ancestry
    caucasus, anatolia, balkan
    Country
    Turkey
    Taxonomy
    pontid turanid
    Religion
    agnostic
    Age
    23
    Gender
    Posts
    3,226
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,500
    Given: 2,435

    2 Not allowed!

    Default

    why are armenians white but turks are not
    why are georgians white but turks are not
    why are cypriots white but turks are not
    why are pontic greeks white but turks are not
    why are cappadocian greeks white but turks are not

    etc. etc. because they are christian. DDD none of them are white including we turks.

  4. #4
    Veteran Member Pater Patota's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Last Online
    04-17-2024 @ 12:26 AM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Anatolian Farmer, Caucasian Hunter Gatherer
    Ethnicity
    Mix of several ethnicities from West Asia and Balkans
    Ancestry
    80% West Asia 20%Balkans
    Country
    Hong-Kong
    Politics
    Against linguistic nationalism, support genetic nationalism
    Gender
    Posts
    1,134
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 630
    Given: 458

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Generally, Turkey’s population have more fair complexion than Armenian, Georgian, Cypriot and Azerbaijani population.
    Target: PP
    Distance: 13.9037% / 0.13903704 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    85.2 Armenian_dynasty
    10.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
    4.2 Phoenician_settler

    Distance to: PP
    0.13943834 Armenian_dynasty
    0.14268276 Persian_incursions
    0.15227399 Thracian_settler
    0.15294616 Mycenaean_warrior
    0.15440099 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
    0.15476057 Illyrian_settler
    0.15593106 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
    0.15607298 Phoenician_settler
    0.15677407 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete

  5. #5
    Veteran Member Armenian Bishop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Online
    09-06-2023 @ 09:23 AM
    Location
    Armenian Highlands & California
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Armenian and Germanic
    Ethnicity
    Armenian & Swiss
    Ancestry
    50% Armenian, from West of Lake Van; 25% Swiss, from Lake Biel Area; 25% Minnesota German.
    Country
    Armenia
    Region
    California
    Y-DNA
    R1b1b2a1a1
    mtDNA
    U8b
    Politics
    Tashnagtsutyan
    Hero
    (1) Andranik Ozanian (2) Baroness Caroline Cox (3) Robert E Lee (4) Cyrano de Bergerac
    Religion
    Christian Mystic
    Relationship Status
    Single
    Gender
    Posts
    4,711
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,424
    Given: 12,676

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    In 1925, the courts ruled that Armenians are White, and reaffirmed an earlier court decision, which came to the same conclusion, in 1909. This excerpt from the court document makes it clear: "it may be confidently affirmed that the Armenians are white persons, and moreover that they readily amalgamate with the European and white races." That set a legal precedent that remained in place, throughout the 20th Century, in America.
    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...6/919/1551454/

  6. #6
    Veteran Member FinalFlash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 11:29 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    YNWA
    Ethnicity
    The Human Race
    Country
    United States
    Gender
    Posts
    5,885
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,385
    Given: 2,855

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen a white Armenian in my life
    You probably have preconceived notions on what Armenians look like.

  7. #7
    Veteran Member XenophobicPrussian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Last Online
    04-09-2022 @ 08:30 PM
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Germanic/Baltic
    Ethnicity
    50% German, 50% Polish
    Ancestry
    Mostly north-east German, Polish, some Anglo-Canadian/English and Lithuanian.
    Country
    Canada
    Y-DNA
    R1b, I1 or bust
    mtDNA
    H1, H3, U5 or bust
    Taxonomy
    Oberkasselid(depigmented female Australoid)
    Politics
    NW-Euro Theodor Herzlism
    Hero
    I sexually identify as Jared Taylor
    Age
    22
    Gender
    Posts
    4,647
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,075
    Given: 1,717

    3 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen a white Armenian in my life




    (yes, fully Armenian, not white because his eye shape is all wrong, but everyone not versed in anthropology would consider him white)
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
    oldschool anthropology

  8. #8
    Veteran Member Armenian Bishop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Online
    09-06-2023 @ 09:23 AM
    Location
    Armenian Highlands & California
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Armenian and Germanic
    Ethnicity
    Armenian & Swiss
    Ancestry
    50% Armenian, from West of Lake Van; 25% Swiss, from Lake Biel Area; 25% Minnesota German.
    Country
    Armenia
    Region
    California
    Y-DNA
    R1b1b2a1a1
    mtDNA
    U8b
    Politics
    Tashnagtsutyan
    Hero
    (1) Andranik Ozanian (2) Baroness Caroline Cox (3) Robert E Lee (4) Cyrano de Bergerac
    Religion
    Christian Mystic
    Relationship Status
    Single
    Gender
    Posts
    4,711
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,424
    Given: 12,676

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    This excerpt from an article published in September, 2020, is interesting:

    "I understand that many Armenians hesitate to call themselves white. I am one of those Armenians. Yet I firmly believe that we, for the most part, are white-passing and therefore have white privilege. It doesn’t hurt that the vast majority of Armenians are Christian, too."

    https://thecolgatemaroonnews.com/239...ible-question/

  9. #9
    Veteran Member FinalFlash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 11:29 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    YNWA
    Ethnicity
    The Human Race
    Country
    United States
    Gender
    Posts
    5,885
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,385
    Given: 2,855

    2 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I think Armenians like Kurds are more westasian and turks are a little more european?
    Turks are also not fully Caucasoid(Eastern and Trabzonian Turks excluded)

  10. #10
    Veteran Member Armenian Bishop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Online
    09-06-2023 @ 09:23 AM
    Location
    Armenian Highlands & California
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Armenian and Germanic
    Ethnicity
    Armenian & Swiss
    Ancestry
    50% Armenian, from West of Lake Van; 25% Swiss, from Lake Biel Area; 25% Minnesota German.
    Country
    Armenia
    Region
    California
    Y-DNA
    R1b1b2a1a1
    mtDNA
    U8b
    Politics
    Tashnagtsutyan
    Hero
    (1) Andranik Ozanian (2) Baroness Caroline Cox (3) Robert E Lee (4) Cyrano de Bergerac
    Religion
    Christian Mystic
    Relationship Status
    Single
    Gender
    Posts
    4,711
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,424
    Given: 12,676

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    This excerpt from the United States v. Cartozian, 1925 Court Document is noteworthy:

    "Although the Armenian province is within the confines of the Turkish Empire, being in Asia Minor,the people thereof have always held themselves aloof from the Turks, the Kurds, and allied peoples, principally, it might be said, on account of their religion, though color may have had something to do with it. The Armenians, tradition has it, very early, about the fourth century, espoused the Christian religion, and have ever since consistently adhered to their belief, and practiced it. Whatever analogy there may be or may exist between the Caucasian and the white races that may be of assistance in the present controversy, the alliance of the Armenians with the Caucasians of Russia has ever been very close. Indeed, the Armenians have for many generations, possibly centuries, occupied territory in Caucasian Russia, have intermingled freely and harmoniously with that people, and the races mix and amalgamate readily and spontaneously. This is strongly evidentiary of the kinship of the two types of people, and that both are of the Alpine stock. The status of these people thus evolved would seem to be practically conclusive of their eligibility to citizenship in the United States, seeing that they are of Alpine stock, and so remain to the present time, without appreciable blending with the Mongolian or other kindred races."

    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...6/919/1551454/

Page 1 of 13 1234511 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Armenians vs Turks: who's lighter?
    By Universe in forum Taxonomy
    Replies: 53
    Last Post: 11-04-2020, 08:05 PM
  2. Turks = Turkified Armenians
    By Loki in forum Türkiye
    Replies: 57
    Last Post: 10-09-2019, 11:33 PM
  3. Replies: 26
    Last Post: 03-19-2019, 12:10 AM
  4. Are gypsies more white than Arabs , Turks , Armenians ?
    By ButlerKing in forum Race and Society
    Replies: 436
    Last Post: 02-09-2018, 06:57 AM
  5. Turks vs Georgians vs Armenians
    By MfA_ in forum Taxonomy
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 12-09-2012, 03:06 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •