Why are Armenians white but Turks are not?

[Pine]

I think Mesopotamian would be the right term. In Dodecad K12b SWA average of Armenian_West average is 16%, which is just in between Greek_Pontus(12-13%) and Assyrians(19%). That makes sense considering where they're originally from

Mesopotamian is correct, however, you'll find recently entered Semitic lineages among them.

[Radimir]

Christianity and the Kardashians. If Turkey convert to Christianity and get their own Kardashians to sway public opinion then maybe they might be considered White too. lol

[Слога]

Armenians are way closer to Europeans, than Blacks or Chinese are.

As I said, among all Asia and Africa, Armenians and Georgians are closest to Europeans.
If they are not, then who are???

- Christians
- native Cuacasians, with no Mongoloid and SSA admixture
- last two centuries under Russian rule, that spread European influence

These are Armenians. They do not look completely foreign for Europeans.

This topic is too sensitive, so i'll write from my part of view.

Ethnic Armenian with originaly Armenian phenotype (Armenoid).



On this photo, they look Semitic.



Guy from the right side look like Shqiptar Haradinaj



Not to mention Armenian Gangs.

But there are also Armenians that look "close" to us due to mixing with Europeans through History. But even those "close" group of people cannot pass as Europeans or something like "Honorary European" that will never exist. They are what they are, why would i want to be something im not? If i accept them as White Europeans, then i have to accept a Turks with Armenian/Anatolian origin, Ashkenazi Jews and Shqiptars as White Europeans too, which i will never do in my life.

[Armenian Bishop]

This topic is too sensitive, so i'll write from my part of view.

Ethnic Armenian with originaly Armenian phenotype (Armenoid).

I've never encountered any Armenians with a head shape like the guy in that photograph. It's a terrible example, and an insult. I could say more about your misunderstood ideas and bigotry, but I'll just leave it at that.

[Frowning Man]

This topic is too sensitive, so i'll write from my part of view.

Ethnic Armenian with originaly Armenian phenotype (Armenoid).

Excuse me, of course, but this example is sheer nonsense. Who even said that this is a primordially Armenian phenotype? You have specially selected the strangest example.
I have seen a lot of Armenians, much more than you, but I have never seen such a thing. Although it is true, Armenians are very different even from other peoples of the Caucasus.

[Asten]

This topic is too sensitive, so i'll write from my part of view.

Ethnic Armenian with originaly Armenian phenotype (Armenoid).



On this photo, they look Semitic.



Guy from the right side look like Shqiptar Haradinaj



Not to mention Armenian Gangs.

But there are also Armenians that look "close" to us due to mixing with Europeans through History. But even those "close" group of people cannot pass as Europeans or something like "Honorary European" that will never exist. They are what they are, why would i want to be something im not? If i accept them as White Europeans, then i have to accept a Turks with Armenian/Anatolian origin, Ashkenazi Jews and Shqiptars as White Europeans too, which i will never do in my life.

The resemblance with Ramush Haradinaj is minor.

[Слога]

I've never encountered any Armenians with a head shape like the guy in that photograph. It's a terrible example, and an insult. I could say more about your misunderstood ideas and bigotry, but I'll just leave it at that.

Excuse me, of course, but this example is sheer nonsense. Who even said that this is a primordially Armenian phenotype? You have specially selected the strangest example.
I have seen a lot of Armenians, much more than you, but I have never seen such a thing. Although it is true, Armenians are very different even from other peoples of the Caucasus.

You're both right, that wasn't right example. I found out that the person from the photo was ill, and that's why his head shape is different than on normal person.

[placebo]

Armenians are honorary Europeans by their Christian culture and religion.

MENA Muslims (Arabs, Turks, Iranians, Pakistanis etc) should not be jealous about that fact and should mind their own bussiness.
There are no closer nations to Europeans than Georgians and Armenians.

jealous? lol. what exactly does it matter to be white? and also op talking about physical appereance not culture, religion etc.

if we talking about physical appereance and genetics sorry dude middle eastern muslim turk closer to you than your armenian brother. (both not closer)

[Altaylı]

Many Turks don`t care whiteness in real life
honestly almost all of my Turkish friends want to look like central asians tatars siberians not europeans or they don`t care race
generally Turkish people are proud with their heritage and ancestors

btw definitely Armenians are not white Armenians have too much southwestern asian(arabic) component in their genetics
if armenians are white some arabs are white too.

[CommonSense]

Armenians are generally an ethncity people aren't too familiar with. Most people only know that they're christians, that they were persecuted by Turks and that they're culturally close to Europeans. I suppose comparing their culture/religion the Turks, who are much more foreign to Europeans in that aspect, leads people to think that Armenians must also be phenotypically closer to Europeans.