Why are Armenians white but Turks are not?

[Hektor12]

Armenians are generally an ethncity people aren't too familiar with. Most people only know that they're christians, that they were persecuted by Turks and that they're culturally close to Europeans. I suppose comparing their culture/religion the Turks, who are much more foreign to Europeans in that aspect, leads people to think that Armenians must also be phenotypically closer to Europeans.

Good point except underlined part. Religion, ok but culture aspect isnt foreign at all, and i can say that some places in Europe (thrace-balkan) are culturally very similar aand this extends through central Europ at some degree. This comes from both Ottoman heritage in the area and balkan heritage in Turkey.

On the other hand, armenians have as much in common with Europeans as a christian Mongolian would have; Rus language and an eastern church.

[FinalFlash]

Good point except underlined part. Religion, ok but culture aspect isnt foreign at all, and i can say that some places in Europe (thrace-balkan) are culturally very similar aand this extends through central Europ at some degree. This comes from both Ottoman heritage in the area and balkan heritage in Turkey.

On the other hand, armenians have as much in common with Europeans as a christian Mongolian would have; Rus language and an eastern church.

lol

[Thracian]

Anatolian, not assimilated Balkanites or Circassians. Like Armenians, they had their fair share of lighter and swarthier individuals.

Who are those assimilated Balkanites? Muslim Serbs and Albanians?

[GoalPoacher]

Still discussing guys?

My honest opinion is that even without taking religion and politics into account, Armenians can be still considered "whiter" than us due to being fully Caucasoid. I think ethnic Turks' affinity to Central Asia is usually overlooked in anthro forums. The most exotic Armenians look Middle Eastern which is still in Caucasoid range, while we have lots of these types:

[Frowning Man]

In my understanding, white is someone who has white skin and, in addition, if he has light eyes and hair. And it doesn't matter who you are - a Turk, Kurd, Italian, German or Armenian.
I don't really understand what culture or religion has to do with it.

[Слога]

In my understanding, white is someone who has white skin and, in addition, if he has light eyes and hair. And it doesn't matter who you are - a Turk, Kurd, Italian, German or Armenian.
I don't really understand what culture or religion has to do with it.

White European is a person of fully European origin. White or correctly saying European male can have Blonde, Brown or Dark-Brown hair, it depends on regions of Europe. Also White male can have Brown, Blue eyes and other variants near those two. Europeans can have pale to as i call it darker skin (not black) again, it depends on regions of Europe.

Your definition is wrong and ignorant with the fact that blonde hair and blue eyes are not the "special key" to recognizing Europeans.

Blonde hair and Blue eyes, is that really gonna make him look European?



Dark hair, hazel eyes, but yet he is European



So im gonna repeat it again, a European person fully European origin, which all do respect Armenians and you Georgians are not.

[Armenian Bishop]

White European is a person of fully European origin. White or correctly saying European male can have Blonde, Brown or Dark-Brown hair, it depends on regions of Europe. Also White male can have Brown, Blue eyes and other variants near those two. Europeans can have pale to as i call it darker skin (not black) again, it depends on regions of Europe.

Your definition is wrong and ignorant with the fact that blonde hair and blue eyes are not the "special key" to recognizing Europeans.

Blonde hair and Blue eyes, is that really gonna make him look European?

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So im gonna repeat it again, a European person fully European origin, which all do respect Armenians and you Georgians are not.

You, and others keep equating "White" with a European origin, but there isn't a consensus of viewpoints that support that viewpoint. In the first place, the U.S. Census System doesn't agree.

[Frowning Man]

White European is a person of fully European origin. White or correctly saying European male can have Blonde, Brown or Dark-Brown hair, it depends on regions of Europe. Also White male can have Brown, Blue eyes and other variants near those two. Europeans can have pale to as i call it darker skin (not black) again, it depends on regions of Europe.

Your definition is wrong and ignorant with the fact that blonde hair and blue eyes are not the "special key" to recognizing Europeans.

Blonde hair and Blue eyes, is that really gonna make him look European?

Dark hair, hazel eyes, but yet he is European



So im gonna repeat it again, a European person fully European origin, which all do respect Armenians and you Georgians are not.

A white person is just a white person. White means that the person has light pigmentation (for example, white skin). It's just human pigmentation. White = / = European. White is not the property of Europeans, and other peoples (not European) have fair skin, eyes or hair not from Europeans.

If an Armenian, an Iranian, a Turk or someone else has a light or very light pigmentation and do not have European blood at all, then yes, they are also white for me, since you cannot call them black or brown in such a situation.

I have never said anywhere that I consider or want to consider Georgians as Europeans. Georgians are not Europeans, we are Georgians and we are Caucasians, we are mountaineers.
Whether we are considered Europeans or not, I don't care. The main thing I consider myself a Georgian and a resident of the Caucasus.

[DarkSecret]

A white person is just a white person. White means that the person has light pigmentation (for example, white skin). It's just human pigmentation. White = / = European. White is not the property of Europeans, and other peoples (not European) have fair skin, eyes or hair not from Europeans.

If an Armenian, an Iranian, a Turk or someone else has a light or very light pigmentation and do not have European blood at all, then yes, they are also white for me, since you cannot call them black or brown in such a situation.

I have never said anywhere that I consider or want to consider Georgians as Europeans. Georgians are not Europeans, we are Georgians and we are Caucasians, we are mountaineers.
Whether we are considered Europeans or not, I don't care. The main thing I consider myself a Georgian and a resident of the Caucasus.

But in this case, Japanese and Chinese would be white too. I would say white=Europid. Not every European is Europid just like not every Turk-Armenian-Georgian non-Europid. There are many dark Europeans and they are considered white. I would say Armenians have darker pigmentation but they are also in Europe partly, albeit controversial like Turkey and Georgia. Part of the Caucasus is in Europe. So they are peoples who had interaction with whites or had Europid ancient peoples who had lived there.

I was never considered a "visible minority" in Canada. I am treated as a white European in Canada which is not good because whites have less rights in Canada. Lol.

[black hole]

In the first place, the U.S. Census System doesn't agree.

The whole US system is retard and idiotic.